is a lot of questions about mueller and i sort of worry that we think he is giving as you eureka moment. and i think what he tried to do and you can criticize or not is to say look there is a process process issue next either criminal or political with impeachment. i'm not part of the process anymore. i'm the substance guy. i provided volume one. plenty of evidence about bad things russians did. volume two. plenty of evidence about obstruction of justice. and so i just think the democrats have to think carefully about how aggressive they want to get against mueller. maybe he should be the substance guy and everyone else has to be the process people. >> all right. faum thank you very much. the man made a name for himself calling for trump's impeachment putting hundreds of millions behind it. tom steyer with a new message for nancy pelosi he is my guest. plus the justice department insisting to difference between what bill barr and robert mueller said about charging a sitting president. but here are hear the words for yourself.

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