segments of the population, and not affect anybody else, you'd have to be a moron to believe that and you can tax businesses and you think they would eat the cost, of course not, they pass it on to you in this form of higher prices and that is basic economics and your average person understands that and that is not say people want entitlements to be cut and don't want that, either, but don't want to pay higher taxes and obama, because of run away spending, is going to have to get behind tax increases, not just for rich people, but, for everybody. it is inevitable. bill: what karl rove says is connect the dots, with everything happening with the economy, kirsten, is that november could be a... could be really tough for the obama presidency to recover, as we sit here, do you see that. >> i think i think that that is obvious for a while, as long that's economy is not doing well, it will be bad for the party in power, and i think a lot of people are hoping that by the time the elections come around, the economy, at least, unemployment will be down, more, and, hopefully that will be