there was cooperation, most likely, ongoing, by some of those lieutenants which led to his arrest. >> julie: before i let you know, i want to point out the fact that the possibility still does exist that as he faces punishment in mexico, he could potentially buy his way out of it? >> well, listen, he's too big of a fish, too important of a catch to -- for anyone to allow him to buy his way out. the caka calderon administratio aggressively addressing the corruption issues with just as aggressively as they are attacking the powerful drug trafficking cartels and they are getting their house in order and will get their house in order, providing we continue to apart them and they don't lose the will to fight. i don't believe they will. >> julie: let's hope not. all right, michael, thank you very much, we appreciate you coming on. >> thank you. >> gregg: a trial set to begin very soon in the 1998 bombings