they have a vested interest in keeping this going. now, the thing is, of course, meg whitman put a ton of money into the race as well. what we have here is a situation where they took advantage of this woman who was working in her house and the woman had not told her she was illegal immigrant according to meg whitman. they used that to sway hispanic voters who went -- 63-30. for jerry brown. >> bill: here's the deal, waterboarding. nurses around -- juan. nurses around the country don't have the reputation of being liberal people. there are liberal nurses and conservative nurses. the california nurse's association, this is in business to do far left activity. am i wrong? >> no. you are right. this is run by a former teamster. they are a rough group. what their whole purpose here is, is, again, public service. public service unions. >> bill: keep the phone flow coming. >> you bet. >> bill: no cut backs, keep the pensions, keep the benefits