country and a lot of insurance companies just collapse. >> yeah. >> i mean, it will be a very bad problem. >> paul: i want to ask you a political question. did you think the critics of this bill, republicans, conservatives are putting too much stock on the legal argument, in the sense that the supreme court, we don't know what it will do, decides to uphold obama care in 2012, the decision is likely to come down, that would be a huge boost for president obama's re'lex campaign? i mean, are they putting too much hope in a legal argument, not about in explaining why. >> i think they need to explain why the bill is bad, but i think the legal risk is one that they have to take because the opposite, and if it's possible, the supreme court declares this law unconstitutional, will be a monumental political defeat for the president. this would be as though they declared medicare or medicaid unconstitutional. this is a big entitlement. i think that the administration and the democrats are in a position of