subjects including politics, did that with mr. o'reilly. >> you know that every great movement have been driven by people with religious conviction, if we duct tape churches not just catholic church, but duct tape the churches and religion and morally convince people in the marketplace, that's going to lead to a huge deficit, a huge void and many people want to fill it up. namely a new religion called secular. >> dave: is he concerned about as a war on politics today? >> people ask me often, do you see him sad, angry upset or depressed? very rarely. the last two or three months definitely. he's very concerned where the country is going, the mandate he's horribly upset about. >> dave: regarding birth control. >> contraception, exactly. but those who believe as he