what he wants to do were to reduce the amount of money going into the treasury, would you do it nonetheless? and his answer was yes but for the sake of fairness. >> he said that to me. he said he raised it to 20. what reich is talking about is the top marginal tax rate that barack obama wants to raise back to the clinton levels by nearly 40%. but rice says flat out, no equivocation, when americans, wealthy americans are paying 70%, that the economy was booming and rolling along and didn't have any negativity. >> what he's doing is a bit of a sleight of hand. the fact that we had a booming economy from world war ii until the mid 1970's was in spite of the ridiculously high income tax rates which were retarding growth. it was the fact that japan was assuming --