grasp on this film because the film allowed them to attack an american. whereas if the real culprits, as they turned out to be, were radical islamists, then it would have been another example. this is not something, sean, i came to early on. it was only as i kept thinking why is it the director of state department communications, speaking on behalf of, quote, my building's leadership, who is driving this. it's not the white house. the white house would have been usually, narrowly political, and i frankly could be giving you a different analysis tonight. >> isn't the guy that made the film still in jail, interestingly enough, out of all of this? i think he might have. >> why would he be in jail? >> well, remember they put him in jail for -- he had a probation violation of some sort and it resulted in him being arrested and put in jail. here's my point, though. the talking points originally were right. they mentioned al-qaeda, they mentioned terror, they mentioned all the things we know now to be