attorneys do, they want every good tool at their fingertip to prosecute terrorists. that's what chris christie did. >> for finding them before the prosecution. >> the purpose of the fourth amendment is to trip up prosecutors, make sure government doesn't get too big. what's wrong with people like rand paul saying have a debate about civil liberties in the era of obama? this was welcome to the 2016 primary. christie was trying to differentiate himself politically from rand paul. this is his background. paul has a different take. new polls show rand paul is now leading in the republican primary field. >> ask bob about that. for 2016. do you believe -- two questions. do you believe they're putting their toe in the water for 2016, and what do you think the republican mindset will be if you had to prognosticate, will it be more conservative or libertarian when it comes to voting. >> strange libertarianism