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complaining about the "new york times" or something like that. it's just a laugh line. >> if he would have said msnbc, it would have been the equivalent of that. somewhere somebody's saying, that's exactly what i said in that memo. >> now we're heading to the government shutdown and who knows how long it will last. and journalists kind of love these crises, even though this is a several inflicted crisis. >> you've been in there business for a long period of time, how did they cover last week? how will they cover in that? i think we're going to see more of the coverage of the politics of it, not of the substance. i went online to try to figure this out for a friend of mine. i couldn't figure it out. >> figure out the premiums of obamacare? >> you can't. i could find a lot about the coverage of green eggs and ham. >> the one difference is, you

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