jenna: let's bring in general jack keane former vice chief of staff for the army and a fox news military analyst. general keane, your reaction to general dempsey. >> i'm a little stunned by it. i don't welcome the opportunity to have to disagree with the chairman of the joint chiefs on public it's, but he's just flat wrong here. symbolically ramadi matters. it's the capital of the largest province in iraq. it's the major sunni province in iraq, and we cannot reclaim iraq or have a stable iraq politically without sunni participation. to suggest that we can lose their capital makes no sense. it's also where the sunni awakening, which began to defeat the al-qaeda in conjunction with the bush surge of forces, it is very symbolic for that reason. strategically look at that map you had up there, can you bring that thing back up again? jenna: absolutely. we'll do that right now. >> when you see that map and ramadi's proximity to baghdad,