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not just my warnings. there are a lot of researchers in the field and out in the security community who have tried to work with transportation industries with the aviation organizations themselves. there are vulnerabilities. you are using modified off the shelf systems and modified networking technology and there are issues we said it. pilots have quietly said it and the industry said there are challenges. those issues still aren't fixed. >> there are tweets going out today. i happen to be at another security conference in california. the fbi los angeles tweeted, this is a serious issue that needs to be swiftly dealt with. roberts is at a hacker conference. i'm assuming that is in support of you or against you? >> interesting question. rsa is a security professional. i'm going up on stage with them thursday. i would say it's not a hacker's conference. i was at a security conference. that is a gathering of the

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