i also think, i understand frustration of people watching the debate. i think one key reform going forward, don't let john harwood obviously every on television. he is too unimpressive. harris: ouch. >> it's true. did you learn lot from the debate? was it interesting? yeah you did. should republican whining? i understand questions were unfair. some were not questions but questions of condemn -- contempt. i learned about people. >> can i whine about liberals. >> you whine a lot. always need therapy. harris: this group can galvanize and become quite formidable as group. they were forced to take over the debate because they had to in absence of leadership. they had a interesting conversation when we could watch and moderates were not interrupting. chris christie said stop interrupting. even in jersey its true.