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>> would you let me answer? steve: yep. >> there are two factors here. first of all, one of the things the affordable care act did, which never true before is that we actually gave people primary care visits without a co-pay and deductible to your doctor can go to the dock without a co-pay and deductible. steve: she feels she can't afford it because of the high deduct tillable. >> sir, stop interrupting. under president bush premiums went up 80% in his 8 years. under president obama they went up 35%. much less. and that's -- let me finish. would you let me finish. that difference is over $4,00...

I also think, i understand frustration of people watching the debate. i think one key reform going forward, don't let john harwood obviously every on television. he is too unimpressive. harris: ouch. >> it's true. did you learn lot from the debate? was it interesting? yeah you did. should republican whining? i understand questions were unfair. some were not questions but questions of condemn -- contempt. i learned about people. >> can i whine about liberals. >> you whine a lot. always need therapy. harris: this group can galvanize and become quite formidable as group. they were forced to take ...

>> he's insisting republicans go first. >> he's doing what you said he should do about a year ago. >> ask the congressman. >> he's the majority leader, let's stop interrupting. >> given that you are all going to go first, what do you think the likely month or two-month window is where you'll be able to strike a deal if one is to be struck on entitlement reform and tax reform? are we talking about the spring, sujer, fall, next year? >> that really is a great question and where is the sweet spot. we'll be unveiling our budget next month. you know, the budget committee under paul ryan is hard at ...