would you let me answer? steve: yep. there are two factors here. first of all, one of the things the affordable care act did, which never true before is that we actually gave people primary care visits without a co-pay and deductible to your doctor can go to the dock without a co-pay and deductible. steve: she feels she can t afford it because of the high deduct tillable. sir, stop interrupting. under president bush premiums went up 80% in his 8 years. under president obama they went up 35%. much less. and that s let me finish. would you let me finish. that difference is over $4,000 for a family. in fact, we have saved a lot of money. it is true they went up but they. two years ago introducing choice. they did go up as much. i want to use the word catastrophic here e what he was being outlined now is a
i also think, i understand frustration of people watching the debate. i think one key reform going forward, don t let john harwood obviously every on television. he is too unimpressive. harris: ouch. it s true. did you learn lot from the debate? was it interesting? yeah you did. should republican whining? i understand questions were unfair. some were not questions but questions of condemn contempt. i learned about people. can i whine about liberals. you whine a lot. always need therapy. harris: this group can galvanize and become quite formidable as group. they were forced to take over the debate because they had to in absence of leadership. they had a interesting conversation when we could watch and moderates were not interrupting. chris christie said stop interrupting. even in jersey its true.
he s insisting republicans go first. he s doing what you said he should do about a year ago. ask the congressman. he s the majority leader, let s stop interrupting. given that you are all going to go first, what do you think the likely month or two-month window is where you ll be able to strike a deal if one is to be struck on entitlement reform and tax reform? are we talking about the spring, sujer, fall, next year? that really is a great question and where is the sweet spot. we ll be unveiling our budget next month. you know, the budget committee under paul ryan is hard at work right now, trying to get straight on the numbers and really the prescription on how we re going to deal with the entitlement reforms. let s just say this, the bottom line is we re going to protect today s seniors and those nearing retirement. but for the rest of us, 54 and younger, we believe strongly we have to come to grips with the fact that if we re going to save these programs for the next gen