betsy devos. they ended up, and the end, mike pence cast the decisive vote and betsy devos as a secretary of education. >> tucker: extremism tends to grow from weakness rather than strength.ec even members of democrats in the house, who we think of as far out, avid lefties, they seem moderate by comparison to a lot of democratic voters. do you get that impression? l >> i don't think they aree moderate because maxine waters is already talking about when the time comes, she will move to impeach the president. she said that, a somewhat different news conference when she said that russia invaded korea. i think she meant crimea. maxine waters, all sorts of things get said. i think those people are pretty far out there. for the democratic caucus as a whole to be as far out on these