i got to work with him at nbc sports for a number of years on the nfl live show and a syndicated show with him. he was a total gentleman, a great writer. put a lot of meaning into the word sportswriter. he will be missed the likes of which we'll never see again. everybody who came in contact with frank felt better about themselves and about him. he was a giant. >> shannon: he was a wonderful guy. along with all the fantastic sportswriting he did the story of his own daughter touching and something he dedicated a lot of his life to doing, drawing attention and looking for a cure as well. jim gray, always good to see you. thank you so much. >> bill: so much talent there. frank deford. the white house defending president trump's advisor and son-in-law jared kushner. a source telling fox news kushner wasn't the one to suggest establishing a back channel with russia. what we're learning about that
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