channels, and yet, we have the president say, we are locked and loaded, and ready to defend this country and our territory. >> i agree completely with what john said and convincing the president and people's republic of china that it is in their interest to act now. unless he intervenes, to stop kim jong-un, the united states is going to have to take preemptive military action against the regime and playing. that will have catastrophic consequence. not only for north korea, but for the the people's republic f china. a few 20% of the north korean population, 25 million human beings, is likely to flee on foot across the rivers and take to the sea like boat people from vietnam. that is a problem for china. there are things the president needs to do with the timeha we have twoo convince that we are deadly serious. talking to kim jong-un is a waste of time. >> jeanine: it is. it's not that the president has