steve: i'm sorry, guys. there's a lot of important point that you both made but i've got people here who have important and interesting points to make. i want to bring in our panel in los angeles. thank you to both of you. with here tonight, new york times best selling author mickey ward, fox news contributor guy benson and associate editor a.b. stoddard. i want to start with you. you saw the discussion there and there are serious issues at the heart of this. i worry that it's gotten muddled up in a week a donald trump response. >> that is a good point. i'm in the lonely middle on this. i am of two minds. i really truly believe that as an american i want everyone to unify behind our anthem and flag and i want at those events to us not be feeling red or blue state or tribal but to be feeling
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