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it seems like i have to defend the liberal left coconut juice crowd, the establishment republicans have to defend, because he's not going to do it. >> laura: want you to start by making your point about how the experts have gotten it right on china, libya, iraq. >> it must be so tough being a conservative that never gets anything wrong. because whenever i hear these things, a litany of i told you so, i told her so. but what's interesting to me is that dr. gorka is sitting here and not in the white house because he was forced out by the establishment in the wrong people who are working for donald trump, who he chose over you. i don't understand what is it that i am here to defend as opposed to it -- you display both sides. >> there is an establishment in this president is the antithesis to it. >> congratulations to gary cohn, i know you are not a fan. >> laura: let's redirect the conversation back to my point because it's actually quite a simple point. for the last 20 years the

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