a caravan that's going to be some say 10 fold larger than the last one on tuesday morning at 5:00 a.m. in san driveway degree honduras which is where the last caravan began. you have a large group amassing. it's not just president trump. the foreign minister. the woman whose name i forget is foreign minister of mexico meeting, literally right now as we spea in yesterdy with honduras and el salvadorian and gwatney matalin officials to get this under wraps. they take this seriously as well. rachel: what i think is interesting is. if you take politics out of it don't talk to a hard core republican. don't talk to a hard core democrat. just talk to somebody who is just looking at this going is this a crisis? trump and the republicans say it is. the democrats say it isn't. who would you go to to find the real answer? you would go to the experts, to the border patrol and the border patrol keeps saying over and over we need a law. we need some help. so, it doesn't make sense to me how the democrats can say it's not a crisis that we