they want a secure border. nothing is more american, they tell us, than having no control who lives in america. walls are not just expensive, they are evil. walls are not who we are, they constantly remind us without its planning what that means. last night the president spoke to an event in el paso, and semicoherent beto o'rourke held a counter rally nearby in between tugs on what may or may not have been a 40 ounces scuba tank of moulton ricker, he raved that walls are more than just immoral, they are deadly. walls may look harmless, but like ted bundy, they can kill people. >> here, and one of the safest cities in the united states of america, not because of walls, but in spite of walls. [applause] we know that walls do not save lives. walls and lives.