pizza has been sitting there four years and i do think michael is right. look, have you candidates from new york and candidates from california. there's a bunch of different parts of the democratic party let's say that each person is representing. here's an old white guy from vermont and. >> martha: you guys are really picking on the old white guy. that's not a very popular phrase in a lot of quarters. but, you know, when you take a look at the chances, you know, of who can -- whether or not president trump can be beat, michael, let me get your thoughts on this. put up this fox news poll. excellent 19%. good 36%. and president trump's favorability rating is down around 43% right now. so you have got a by on from a number of people including donna shalala and aoc spokesperson corbin trent who say they refuse to endorse bernie for 2020. excited to see many progressives in the race we are not thinking at all about the next election. it raises a lot of questions

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