very early. everyone knows who he is. got no energy. he keeps making mistakes. he has a nickname that will stick. sleepy joe. it doesn't feel like the party is red i don't to say this is our guy. ainsley: if you talk to many solve the democrats behind the scenes they all say yeah, i know, some of these blunders make us scratch our heads, what do we do? but, he was on top of the polls. voters love him. they like some of this about him because they think is he relatable. no one is perfect. we all have our little blunders. pete: blunders are fun when it doesn't matter. when you are on that debate stage. ainsley: doing so well in the polls. >> doing well? at 30%. once you put the progressives together they beat him. he has enough support to cross the threshold. griff: name recognition so too does bernie sanders that's why he trailing in the top front of the pack. bernie sanders is really putting some things out there. policy wise. >> he has been putting out there for a long time. griff: it is getting a lot of attention. yesterday he was talking about what is the biggest threat to our country.