afraid to come forward. he would not talk to anybody because of the stigma. i was afraid - even after it happened to talk about it. there is still that stigma attached to it and again we can tell everyone to come forward but until we change the culture and change the policies and make it a more normal thing they will continue to struggle and we need to make it easier for them to talk about it and say it's okay. harris: i'm so sorry for your loss rate we are watching police officers deal with mounting homelessness and support inviting terror and domestic violence situations and calls that can be so predictable as you say, doctor alexander, so much pressure on them. judgment, thank you so very much for it and sorry for the loss of your colleagues. >> thank you. harris: there is help. it is anonymous. just reach out to. if are an officer in crisis call

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