is this going to have any spark to it, this thing tomorrow? >> i'm with you, chris. i'm very worried about a snoozefest where we hear lots of talking points. lots of things we already knew. the thing about the thing that what obama did with the house republicans last month was it only was planned for the day before. everyone didn't have a lot of time to prepare, the staffers to write a lot of memos. i'm worried, unless president obama has a specific idea that will change the dynamic i'm worried this is going to not change much about what this process has been like so far. >> you know, it seems to me the reason bull-fighting was exciting for all those years, even though it was inhumane, it's because the bull never saw the bullfighter until the bullfight started. never saw a guy standing in front of him before. didn't know what the person was. that's exciting. but now they know what barack obama looks like. they know what the matador looks like. is the bull going to behave the same exact way, the republican party, and just take it and go for the red cape again? >> i think it would be -- >> is he going to do it again?