over $3.5 million the city is on the verge of cutting firefighter overtime and they may even close down entire firehouses. now philadelphia is a very liberal city but i think that this is really putting the city in a position all because the republicans in washington refuse to spend a penny of any federal money to help the cities out around this country and here's what philadelphia is in. the firefighters union describes this as playing russian roulette with people's lives. for more on this let's turn now to tim mcshea of the philadelphia firefighters union, vice president local 22. dim, good to have you on tonight. this is all about the money. how is the community reacting to the proposal that there could be numerous firehouses that could be completely shut down that normally are fully operational. >> well, we're still getting response from the community. they have no idea what a rolling