questions, and that's the context into which we should be setting this question, not is this birthers versus the president, how does it effect the 2012 elections. i think we've been missing the larger point by asking should obama do this or that. obama didn't start this problem. >> well, michael, that's an interesting point. you did an interview with donald trump. how does the media deal with this? on the one hand you have this firestorm that the guy starts. on the other hand, it's ugly, right? and to ask the president of his papers, that puts the president in a position where he's got to give the papers to the public. how do you deal with it? >> frankly, it is a tough issue. i remember when this first came up a few weeks ago, when trump started fanning it and which frankly is the only reason we've been talking about it. if it hadn't been for donald trump, we wouldn't be talking about the birth certificate issue. this was marginalized to the extent it wasn't getting
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