like pat buchanan that buchanan won in '96, almost won against the senior bush and beat dole with that message, a pro-life underpinning, everybody knows you're pro-life and then make the economic argument. that's what santorum did last night. >> yes, i know, but i agree with steve. if he goes the buchanan route, that's a dead end. rick santorum thinks of himself as a guy who can marry cultural conservatism with -- with economics, and he's got -- >> yeah. >> he's got to stress the economic message up here, and his 'got to do it in a way 6 that gets a new generation of voters here, and by the way, on the catholic thing, chris, i think it's true as far as you take it. it, but that's not what the main aim of rick santorum is going to be here. he's going to go after secular people who want some kind of new leadership that doesn't seem manufactured and pre-made and phony. >> yeah. >> a big part of what rick santorum is going to do here is appeal to the new hampshirites' love of authenticity saying we don't want a manufactured guy.