troops. we actually have a full screen graphic of our troop levels from december 2002, 9,700, december of 2005, 17,80 o we went up 67,500. 97,000, now at 90,000. 68,000 troops a number we can hold at? does the american public stand by that? >> it's twice what was there when president obama was inaugurated. and there is this clearly articulated two-year plan to phase out in two years. so to the degree, apart from what the military people on the ground believe is the optimal number, as an optics thing for what the american people can stand, we're not cutting and running, it's an orderly phased out withdrawal and you know, yes, there are horrors that happen in every war that will continue to happen no doubt. but i think this okay, we did