ripple effect on recruiting. that is really a punishment of probably six, eight, maybe even ten years. and as you said to michael isikoff, there are people who believe this is not the death pen tens sentence, but it's actually more harsh. and i'm one of those people. to say you can't play football for one year would have been more lenient than what they ultimately got. >> michael sm, i would imagine there are a number of the victims and the families who would disagree with you. >> there might be, but i'm so their side. nobody's been more of a hawk on this case of wanting to throw the book at all the evil doers than me. but my complaint in this case is how about the merchants in state college. how about the guy who owns a restaurant, a tap room, maybe a small inn where his economic model is dependent upon the business of those football games. they shouldn't be punished. >> thank you, sir, appreciate your opinion.