again, when we were in isfahan i was in the same room with one of my cell mates and watched him try to commit suicide. and just a number of those things. and always not having any news of what was going on and what was happening on our behalf was a real strug gel steve, are you talking about steven lauterbach who tried to split his wrists? he wanted to end his life? that is one gentleman who tried to commit suicide. there's also a young lady who says her father has been so deeply disturbed by this that she hasn't even seen him for eight years. talk about the depths of despair and the troubles that all of your fellow hostages go through. >> no. i'm aware of steve lauterbach. he's another instant. the gentleman i was with, jeremy miell, the poor guy worked for the cia as an electronics technician. but because he had that ack