masay -- and this is, i think, an important point to masay -- and this is, i think, an important point to masay -- and this is, i think, an important point to ma make. there are a lot of people who go from the devout side to a more radical side. there are a lot of people who entertain political ideas we may not like. those are not criminal acts. and so what richard says about surveillance and the russian intelligence looking in on these people is one thing, but it's hardly possible to go around arresting everybody that begins to entertain radical ideas or fundamentalist versions of their religion. >> thanks for that. thank you, richard engel, as always, sir. up next, will the boston marathon bombing change the debate here in washington over immigration reform? they're getting connected already and that's ahead. this is "hardball." the place for politics. [ agent smith ] i've found software that intrigues me. it appears it's an agent of good. ge has wired their medical hardware with innovative software to be in many places at the same time. using data to connect patients to software, to nurses to the right people and machines. ♪ helping hospitals treat people even better,

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