be. >> so this is the question we fine ourselves discussing as a nation. whether it is effective to subject people in u.s. custody to sleep deprivations, to near drownings, to really unspeakable degradations. whether by doing so we can get information that can save american lives. so we ask ourselves, does torture work? those who oppose torture says it doesn't work. like president obama who banned enhanced interrogation techniques almost as soon as he took office. here he is speaking on the effectiveness of what he calls torture. zblf some of these techniques that were described were not only wrong, but also counterproductive because we know that, you know, often times when somebody is subjected the to these techniques, that they're willing to say anything in order to alleviate the pain and the stress that they're feeling. and we have better ways of doing