or illegal, not to say there isn't, but there may not be. it complicates the message they're trying to send politically while they're trying to be global actors. >> michael, i think the clinton campaign release tonight about hillary did not make the decision for the state department about letting that deal go through. is one of those pieces in politics where you're forced to admit the office holder doesn't do these things. it's done at a staff level. the office holder is flying in a plane anywhere holding meetings with people. i'll be very surprised to discover that hillary was really hands on certifying this kind of deal. in fact, this stuff is delegated usually and i bet there will turn out to be a very large e-mail in the state department, not hers, but others, advisory e-mails saying yes, this is what we should do with this deal. >> right, of course. but the conflict of interest