denouncing the hatemongers. and denouncing the awful things that have happen and to be clear and to be a strong leader and also to get back to policy. because the american people want jobs. the american people want tax cuts. they want to see health care reform. they might want to see an infrastructure bill pass. they want to see congress do something and he could lead that fight. he could lead on policy and try and bring the country together. because as we can see, and as we've seen this past week, the american people have lost a little confidence in him. he can stoep -- step up ant get that back if he shows moral authority and give good speeches showing his moral authority. >> go ahead. >> i was going to say, there is also talk and rumors that he might be pardoning the controversial sheriff -- >> joe arpaio. >> and my view is that i think that would be kind of -- that would be a great way for him to get off message. because i think that would stir up a whole new set of