kristen, mike pence is extremely popular with the republican base now, will se not even never trumpers, from never trumpers to people who are all in for trump, mike pence is a very popular figure within the party? >> fewer sure, when he was chosen to be the running mate, it was viewed as this olive branch to ideological conservatives who had big reservations against trump nominees, he represents the trump again da with a softer delivery, if you are the type of republican that likes what he is about or maybe wishes he would lay off the twitter or wishes he would stop be so brash and abrasivech that's mike pence for you the mild mannered guy on top of the make america grate again agenda, to the extent that he remains popular in the party that is linked to donald trump being popular in the party.