what trump said, but the chinese have more direct control over all of this. now it's quiet because they're heading into their winter training session and it's cold and not a good time to launch missiles. >> jeremy bash, what did you think of the strategy announced my the white house today? >> i think this was largely a symbolic move. it was justified, and as you reference, brian, this designation of a state sponsor of terrorism was removed by president bush, really as a carr carrot, or more appropriately, the removal of a stick to get north korea back to the ghoes t negotiating table and to reward them when we thought themp cooperating with us on six-party talks. i think it was justified to reimpose that designation, but it will not do much to pressure kim jong-un to giving up his nuclear program or restraining it and stopping that all-critical meeting of a miniaturized nuclear weapon on top of an icbm. >> gordon, i don't know how they let the president go out unbriefed, because this was placing it back on this list after many years on this list,