somebody who is the president's personal lawyer also working on some of this. what is interesting is the crossover. one question we have been trying to nail down with anybody is when the president, when exactly without a shadow of the doubt did the president know that michael flynn lied to the fbi. the white house refers our questions to outside question. >> and to the other part of this that i asked about which is the scramble that appears to be going on to figure out what is their legal strategy, how is it possible eight months later that there isn't a clear plan here? it's not as though no one thought it was possible that flynn was a target here. >> i think donald trump would be a tough client for any lawyer in any context before he was president and since. i think there are many difficult legal questions. the strategy that this team has