>> because you are connecting kids to their parents parents who are in prison, in jail. what an awful experience it must be for them. >> they think of it as mom is okay. dad is okay. you can imagine what the parent feels. my god, my kid is okay. >> because we don't think of -- we are talking about individual parents and children, a very intimate relationship. all of this talk about immigrant children and so forth -- it's very individual, very personal. >> it is very personal. in this country where we talk about family all the time, right, i a big conversation, this is as personal as it gets. this is family. i think i mentioned it to you earlier, ron, the vast majority of these kids are charismatic catholics, evangelical christians. >> really. >> had he we go to chapel on sunday we run two services sometimes. >> we haven't heard a lot about that kids coming here who are evangelicals. >> right. these are kids that are coming from faith communities with incredible values. and these are family units that
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