newspapers, he's instructed the jury to do the same. he's really someone who almost daily reminds us he's been in this for 31 years and he really wants to stay outside of politics. he says he's even been surprised by what a big deal this case is appeared the attention it's gotten. i don't think you and i are surprised by that as people who are following the news, but i think that those comments could be more in mueller's hat as he starts to look at anything trump has said to weigh in to potentially dangle pardons in front of manafort and others facing trial as well. >> joul ulia, thanks for your reporting on this. coming up it was a very different kind of week for the trump white house where russia wasn't the main story. on what's omarosa's political impact mean moving forward? she says more secret tapes are on the way.