i don't know if i want to give credit to the washington crowd for backing offer of them tinkering too much but let's be have been recruited six cycles ago. the national democratic party would have had a stereotype about kansas. no, no, no. that can't happen. no, go be yourself. and it worked. >> i think especially in a place like that. like, go out if you're going to a place they don't feel as comfortable about, let's just try something. let's try something different. to me the enthusiasm, the voter excitement, what is it really all about? the fact 2016 never ended. 2016 still has not ended. we are still living through the 2016 campaign. >> i want to put up a quote from terry mcauliffe. take a listen. >> you know, i'm one of the ones -- there's probably 30 or 40 who are seriously thinking about it. i'm going to spend my time over the holidays -- i have five