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have open courts, number one, lying to the fbi was the tip of the iceberg. this guy -- he asked the prosecutors, could you have charged this guy, michael flynn, for other things? for treason? for other crimes? they discussed treason briefly. then they said, yes, we could charge him of other crimes. he did that in in virginia on the foreign lobbying, as you put it, selling out america for money. walk us through from a national security perspective why it is potentially good for the country to have a judge lay this out under oath. >> well, first we have one-third of the country flat-out refusing to believe anything that is said by anyone other than donald trump. and donald trump started the day by wishing michael flynn good luck on this. michael flynn was considered a liar by president trump when president trump fired him from the job of national security adviser for lying to mike pence. now, is that true? we don't know.

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