>> we can show the rest of the country, as we make our stand here together tonight that walls do not make us safer. walls will require us to take someone's property. their house. their farm. their ranch. to build a wall at a time of record low northbound apprehensions. >> let me bring in msnbc's garrett hake. he was at that o'rourke rally last night. and the host of a nationally syndicated radio show. what did those at the o'rourke rally tell you? >> reporter: the folks i've been talking to feel like when the president talked about their city on the night of the state of the union like he was talking about some other place in some other country. the president described a city that was incredibly dangerous up until the border wall, that you can see over my shoulder, which