>> yes. what the democrats can do is what they've been doing since trump took office and reconvene. they've been trying to attack trump in different ways. the issue is with mueller not testifying, there is no actual proven fact that, perhaps, trump did -- that perhaps trump did, sorry, go against or collude with russians, then democrats have to wonder what their next strategy is going to be. this is not just about mueller, it's also about what are they going to do heading into 2020. right now speaker pelosi has said she's not interested in pursuing impeachment and democrats have a higher goal and that's retaking office. >> let's move, guys, to bill barr's investigation of the russia investigation. senate judiciary chairman lindsey graham who's discussing what he expects to be the results from all this. take a listen to him. >> in terms of the counterintelligence investigation, you're going to