testing nuclear weapons. we want to make sure japan is safe and they don't have short-range nuclear weapons. i would like to know anyone who negotiates with the united states is going to be safe from being murdered. we have to look at what the people in north korea, their circumstances they're living under. these prison camps. the execution of many people. the treatment of many people. so there's a long road ahead, but the fact of the matter is steve baggen, the lead negotiate or the for the united states, actually spent time here in michigan, worked for ford. i have a great deal of respect for him. i'd like to -- i always try to be hopeful, but i also am a realist. >> uh-huh. let's look at what happened on friday with the president meeting with russian president vladimir putin appearing to joke about interfering with election. let's listen to the president defending that exchange with putin. >> you have to take a look at the words i did say, and then we