traditional government programs. so i think right now between the international -- between international cooperation and this kind of new, you know, space companies is really, i think, the wave of the future. >> scott kelly, good to see you as always. thank you for joining me on this important anniversary. please tune in tomorrow we will be interviewing the nasa administrator. thank you for watching "velshi & ruhle." i will see you back here at 3:00. you can watch or listen to "velshi & ruhle" on tune in sirius xm radio, msnbc.com/now. the msnbc app or apple tv. i'm still getting used to this, i am not familiar with the idea that you can watch us on all these different things. i want to hand it over to chris jansing now. >> it's cool. not as cool as being in space. would you go. >> i would. >> good afternoon, i'm chris januarysling in for katy tur. it is 11:00 out west, 2:00 p.m. in the east where president trump's fight with the squad is