democrats to go further into this impeachment and actually start these hearings. my concern is whether or not if the democrats, if some democrats take their time and try to create this case that they're not going to do it quickly enough to stave off some of the challenges because that actually would be a lot more divisive for us than us making sort of a credible case over time. >> mr. gorman, i, too, am not a lawyer, but i am an enthusiast of law and order. i consider myself a law amateur. republicans. how are they going to play this? does it make more sense for them to go hard on the deep state, pushing on the origins of the investigation, comey, struck, lisa page, or do they go easy as bacil put it, knowing mueller is a reluctant witness and is most likely not going to give democrats something new? >> from what i hear the