burden that is unbelievable. and the less -- particularly hard in those cities, you know marilyn well, chicago and new york, an actuary cities. and so in many of those cases you've got migrants getting priority over native board schmuck nativeborn kids. the kids have to move out and go remote learning and the migrants go and sleep in the gym. this is a disaster. >> sandra: were showing parents at least school board meetings and inferred up with it. we can -- were going to get back because her out of time because of the working years, would love to continue the conversation, thank you so much. bill bennett. >> thank you, very important about the future. >> sandra: thank you for joining us, i'm chandler smith. >> john: and john roberts," the story" katherine dow it marc staal in norman --'s before joining you live from