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Once a cheat, always a cheat. While stats suggest that infidelity is on the rise, were asking this morning can a leopard really change its spots . Leopard really change its spots . Well, its great to be three nil up at half time, but not for luton last night it really didnt end well. Ill tell you more about that shortly. Willie mullins becomes the first person to train 100 cheltenham winners, and golfer and and if youre a golfer and youre an autograph youre asked for an autograph but paper, do but theres no paper, what do you sign morning. Whilst there will be some fine weather across eastern parts today, elsewhere its going to be a wetter story and then tomorrows looking showery. Then tomorrows looking showery. Ill have the details shortly. Morning to you. Morning to you. Morning to you. Im Stephen Dixon and im Ellie Costello, and this is breakfast on gb news. Got a question for you this morning. Yes , yes. Yes, yes. yes, yes. Are you a dink . What . Are you a dink . What . It was a dink. What a dink. I dont think i am. That doesnt sound very good. It doesnt sound very. Its not very good. It means dual income. No kids with a dog. Youre a dink quad . No. Well yes you are. Oh, well, technically. Oh, oh, well, technically. Oh, actually, yeah. Youre a dink quad. No, but apparently these these dink quads are are, going on social media and boasting about themselves , including one about themselves, including one whos named here in the star saying, her partner and i jump for joy all the time and nothing forjoy all the time and nothing wobbles because i am a child free, adventurous, taut of thigh, an upstanding of chest. Oh , my beloved is a six foot oh, my beloved is a six foot four man god with all his own hair and a backside as tight as a walnut. Oh, i dont like. Shes 52, so presumably the boyfriends are similar, but apparently they all. They show off about the fact that they are firm of body and plush of cash. And plush of cash. I dont like that. No showing off. Showing off . Youre not like that. Youre a dink wad. But youre not like that. No, its never good to show. No, its never good to show. Does it come with the arrogance . I hope not, well, maybe thats the thing. Apparently boasting about their luxury lifestyles. I suppose you would have a luxury lifestyle, you, if you lifestyle, wouldnt you, if you didnt kids. Didnt have kids. Dont show it in but you dont show it in peoples faces. Children are a blessing, arent they . Yeah so if you can have children. Great. Lovely. Its part the joy of lovely. Its part of the joy of life. Plus it pays for our pension. Pension. So youre a dink quad. How do you feel about that . Well, im a dink wad, but then children arent an option, so there you go. So its just the way wed be dink quads if we had a garden. Id have a dog if i had a garden. All right. But in a flat, not option. So youre just a dink. So youre just a dink. Im just a dink. Double income. No kids. Yeah, im a dink. Im a dink. Youre a dink. What . Yeah. There you go. Oh, there you go. Didnt actually think go. I didnt actually think about when introduced about that when i introduced learned new today. Learned something new today. You instantly i love how you instantly thought me. Youre like, thought of me. Youre like, youre dink. Are . Youre a dink. You are . Yeah. Em 5 whats this thanks. Whats this about air fryers, have an air fryers, do you have an air fryer . I have a question for fryer . No. I have a question for you. Oh, you dont have an air fryer . Good. Good chat, well, jamie starting a new jamie oliver is starting a new show, jamies air fryer show, called jamies air fryer meals. Apparently meals. And apparently hes saying the must have saying this is the must have device our kitchens because device in our kitchens because you really you can make things really easily theyre cost effective. Is he launching his own air fryer . Probably off the back. That would. That make that would. That would make sense. Its a partnership between, channel tefal. Between, channel 4 and tefal. The is it t4 tefal tefal. The wait is it t4 tefal tefal. Weve had this conversation before. We have you all said tefal. We have you all said tefal. I bought tefal pans and you were like its not tefal, its tefal, tefal, tefal, tefal , tefal, tefal, tefal, tefal, apparently only 45 of households own one. And hes saying it should be 100 because it uses less energy, saves time , it uses less energy, saves time, and creates much, much less washing up. All the while turning out delicious, nutritious food. So there you go. You need to get yourself an air fryer. Try one. The chips came out 509931, try one. The chips came out soggy, youre doing it wrong. Then chips to perfection. Then just chips to perfection. Have you got one . Have you got one . Yeah. And you know what the worst worst thing is about this air fryer is . If you get a takeaway and you bring it home, and you know when the takeaway gets a bit cold and a bit soggy, well, no more, my friend. No more. Goes in the air fryer more. It goes in the air fryer and just brings it back to and it just brings it back to life. Crispy and delicious. Yes, i think thats a generational difference. It is a generational maybe it is a generational difference, even the chips difference, but even the chips from put them from the chippy, i just put them in them a quick refresh in and give them a quick refresh and stunning. Yeah, it does a and stunning. Oh yeah, it does a really good job. So its dangerous. Why you stone why arent you 72 stone i dont oh theres one dont know. Oh look theres one on on asda. On sale on asda. Theres an advert. There you go. Got excuse. Other go. Got no excuse. Other supermarkets are available. No thank you, yeah. No no no thank you, right, ill get you to it i right, ill get you on to it i will. Okay you and your squad, lets move on to our top story this morning. The government is set islamist far set to name islamist and far right groups that undermine democracy. As number democracy. Thats all. As number 10 releases a new definition of extreme ism. Yes. Yes. Extremist groups that fall below the terrorism threshold but continue to promote violence, hatred or intolerance will be banned from working within any public body. Within any public body. Well, it follows months of anti semitic commentary by groups after the seventh of the 7th of october attacks. But crucially, its going to have no effect on existing criminal law. Effect on existing criminal law. Well, lets get the thoughts of political commentator andy williams. Of political commentator andy williams. Really of political commentator andy williams. Really good to see you williams. Really good to see you this morning, andy. What do you make of the governments new extremism helpful . Well , firstly, i think its well, firstly, i think its a reaction to accusations that the governments been too slow to respond to all of the you know, the protests and the controversy thats erupted , on the streets, thats erupted, on the streets, in particular on the streets of london, in the wake of everything that happened on october the 7th. And im not surprised, by the way, to see that the person, even within government, whos kind of grabbed bull the horns is grabbed the bull by the horns is michael because if anyone michael gove. Because if anyone is to act within is going to act within government, does tend to be government, it does tend to be him. I think this is going to be really controversial. The really controversial. And the reason that all of reason for that is that all of these things are, are very difficult pin down. So were difficult to pin down. So were talking about a definition that looks at organisations who promote violent and hateful ideologies. Well, how do you determine what that looks like and how do you where do you draw the line. So its going to be a very subjective judgement. Its going to give the secretary of state, not statutory powers, but the power to determine who is and who is not on these lists. And these people pretty. Isnt it pretty clear, though . Someones promoting hate. Everyone puts out, you know, everyones got a website. Everyones got, you know, leaflets they dish out at leaflets that they dish out at these events and all the rest of it. Well, at the extreme end, of course, its very, very, very clear. And there should be action taken. And those organisations ultimately should be banned. And theres already processes prescribe processes in place to prescribe and to ban organisations who are out promoting hate and shouting hateful things and doing hateful things on the streets. But this is about categorising a group of organisations and people who promote extreme ideologies and want to overturn and replace uk democracy. And i think its, you know, its already proved controversial with three home secretaries have criticised it. The archbishop of canterbury has criticised it. And, the question is where do you draw the line on this . And thats whats going to be tricky. Do you think this will help with policing of the pro palestine marches , which we pro palestine marches, which we know have been highly criticised over few weeks over the past few weeks and months, this months, or do you think this this another layer to this adds another layer to policing the way where Police Police force have to interpret the law rather than enforce it . I think it makes it more tricky for them. It adds another layer of complexity , as you sort of complexity, as you sort of alluded to there. And i think the police have a hard enough job as it is that theyve not got everything right. They are, in cases going too far in in some cases going too far in arresting people who are making, you know, statements that you or arresting people who are making, ymight w, statements that you or arresting people who are making, ymight not tatements that you or arresting people who are making, ymight not like,1ents that you or arresting people who are making, ymight not like, buts that you or arresting people who are making, ymight not like, but butat you or arresting people who are making, ymight not like, but but which or i might not like, but but which are could be, could be deemed to be offensive, but a factor of freedom of speech and thats where this is. The challenge is its all about balancing Civil Liberties, the right to protest, the right to freedom of speech with the first duty of any government which is to protect its citizens. But its all about getting access to government, isnt it . Its about access to ministers. And its saying, well, these groups have access to groups cant have access to ministers. Seems fair enough. It does. It does. Mean, and to be fair, but i mean, and to be fair, some anti extremist groups have come welcomed this already. Absolutely. And general , absolutely. And in general, again, it does seem fair enough. The challenge is that if government ministers are deciding not deciding who should not have access government ministers, access to government ministers, theres clearly a bit of a conflict there. So think conflict there. So i think overall, overall, i think this is but there are is welcome. But there are obviously challenges around the nuances the complexities of nuances and the complexities of how you, assign and define these organisations , on an entirely organisations, on an entirely different matter, inheritance tax. This is causing a bit of a kerfuffle today, and you wonder if the labour party is are going to jump on this. I dont see the problem. Excuse me. The Prime Ministers family, its claimed , ministers family, its claimed, are going to still benefit from are going to still benefit from a loophole. That means , akshata a loophole. That means, akshata murty, the Prime Ministers wife , will not pay inheritance tax despite a government crackdown on non dom status. As now, you can see the headlines on that sound terrible when you especially when youre exceedingly rich and youre going to inherit a vast amount of money. But this is about as this means this is about stuff she will inherit from her family in india. Yeah. So shell in india. Yeah. So shell probably still pay inheritance tax in india. This is about stopping double taxation. Yeah. I mean, stopping double taxation. Yeah. I mean, i stopping double taxation. Yeah. I mean, i was reading yeah. I mean, i was reading this on the way in this morning. The first thing i should say is my partner is a tax lawyer who works on double tax treaties. So i think youve kind of got the wrong person on to talk about this in my household, this in in my household, because thats her entire no, thats her entire job. No, youre absolutely right. I mean, this tax treaties this is double tax treaties exist with major countries exist with most major countries to paying tax to prevent people paying tax twice, and taxation, twice, basically. And taxation, in some cases, in most cases, particularly in the uk, is decided on broadly on the basis of where you live, on your residence, where youre domiciled, versus somewhere like the us, where if youre a us citizen, you can be taxed on your income in anywhere in the world, in the us. So shes done nothing wrong, it is. It might be called a loophole , but it is be called a loophole, but it is a loophole that exists for everybody. The problem, i think, everybody. The problem, i think, for rishi sunak, is that 78 of people think he is out of touch with ordinary people, and thats no fault of his own. You know, no fault of his own. You know, he has a very wealthy wife and thats not a problem. But it does reinforce that perception that hes out of touch. It it is it is the it is the optics it is the optics with it is the optics with this story isnt it. It only reinforces that narrative. Yeah. And especially when you know inheritance tax is something we all know i think im right in saying the most unpopular saying its the most unpopular tax britain. People tax in britain. People absolutely inheritance tax. Absolutely hate inheritance tax. But only of people pay it. But only 3 of people pay it. You very people meet you know very few people meet the threshold at which you pay inheritance people inheritance tax. But people think its unfair in general. And again, its not its not and so again, its not its not going to be something that makes the Prime Minister look good after a difficult week for him. Not so she wont be its not so she wont be paying its not so she wont be paying inheritance tax on that money. I mean, we paid in india. I mean, we paid in india. The is its just yeah, the truth is its just yeah, yeah, yeah. In the scheme of things, theyre so wealthy it doesnt matter. No, i mean it just doesnt matter. But is this what were heading to in this sort of febrile election atmosphere now that anything, even if theres no real basis to it, its all going to make headlines. Its all going to make a fuss. Yeah and its a bit depressing. I think in some ways. I mean, if i was advising labour and there are probably good reasons why im would steer clear im not, i would say steer clear of, of this one because actually history shows that banging on about ex politician or y politician being wealthy people dont respond that well to it. What people care more about is, is there is their character. So if rishi sunaks looking out of touch, its not because hes got a load of money in the bank. Its because of the way he behaves and the way, the way he talks about things talks about certain things and he helped himself again he hasnt helped himself again this the, diane abbott row. Andy williams, good to see you morning. You this morning. You very much indeed. Thank you very much indeed. Thank you very much indeed. Okay. Now, william and okay. Now, Prince William and prince harry are set to attend. Well, sort of harry is doing it virtually, but its an awards ceremony in honour of their late mother, Princess Diana. Yes. Prince william will make an appearance that the diana legacy awards this evening , an appearance that the diana legacy awards this evening, but prince will attend prince harry will attend virtually. Reported , virtually. Its been reported, of course, that the brothers arent going to cross paths. Yeah, all sort of appear in the same. Yeah, you come in, you cant paths no that way. Cant cross paths no that way. But do you know what i mean . Like williams arent going to be there in harrys virtual event. Thing. Be there in harrys virtual eve no, thing. Be there in harrys virtual eve no, meanwhile, the no, no, meanwhile, the princess has been princess of wales has been crowned britains favourite royal. But the survey was taken before the photoshop scandal, over which i cannot work out what the fuss is about at all. About that. About that. Neither can i, but it certainly is kicking up a fuss. So were asking you this morning, has that changed things . The results of that survey . Well, joining now is survey . Well, joining us now is royal helena chard. Royal broadcaster helena chard. Good to see you this morning helena. As should we start with Prince William prince Prince William and prince harrys. They are attending the same but theyre not same ceremony but theyre not going the same room, going to be in the same room, are they . Are they . Theyre not going to be in the same room. So just a reminder, the diana award was set up in 1999, in memory of the late, well of their mother, so this is such a special thing. I think its the only charity as well. So youd think this would be so, so important to both the boys , this honours young people boys, this honours young people and people that work towards helping the life of others. And 20 people are going to receive awards tonight , the late awards tonight, the late Princess Diana. Her belief is , Princess Diana. Her belief is, was sorry that, young people have the power to change the world. So its something thats really strong. And both the boys, are very close to this. Boys, are very close to this. Such a shame theyre not going to be together, though. I completely understand it, the fact. I completely understand it, the fact. I mean, maybe its a slight step forward simply because theyre going to both be thought of at the same event. So, the prince of wales, hes going to attend, hes going to be giving a speech and he will give out the awards to the 20 recipients, and i believe prince harry will then turn up online later on and well chat. So it really celebrates with the winners. So its a its a fun. And also to say its the 25th anniversary. So this is really, really, really special. And, it really, really special. And, it just would have been so good if there could have been a slight overlap, just to give a little bit of, of hope, but, i so get it, you know, theres just so much upset and its i, its definitely going to take a while to appease. Im pretty sure , i to appease. Im pretty sure, i just, you know, ive got also, contacts in the states and everyones talking about it at the moment and, wanting to know whats happening, but i just i dont see any movement. I mean, we did see also, prince harry, the sussexes put out a statement , i think, yesterday, and this was to do with the whole furore with the photoshopped image. And it was the perfect situation where they could have sort of put something out to , to, the put something out to, to, the princess of wales, something small, a token. But there was small, a token. But there was nothing. And that was their one chance. I nothing. And that was their one chance. I think pr wise. And that was a miss, so a real a real change. But, helena, what do you make of this . I mean, shes been princess of wales most popular royal. According to the survey taken before the photos scandal. Im a bit loathed to call it a scandal. Well, really, i cannot scandal. Well, really, i cannot see for the life of me what shes done, which is so terribly wrong. Well, for me , i think, well, for me, i think, i mean, its so. I mean, i feel so, so sorry, for me, the princess of wales. Okay. Shes she has not had the advice. Thats really whats happened. Thats really whats happened. It comes down to Kensington Palace. The Communication Team , palace. The Communication Team, she obviously, in hindsight, im sure shes kicking herself, but its an edited picture that the problem is it. Its the picture. Agencies that obviously struck the picture off, and now its all the conspiracy theories and its just a huge furore, but i do. I take your point, stephen. I feel i feel the same. I think shes been really vindicated. And its something so simple because actually, it was a nice gesture that she put out, and i bet she so regrets it. But, bet she so regrets it. But, again, my contacts in the states, for instance , im going states, for instance, im going on people i speak to abroad and, everyone also feels so sorry for the princess of wales. So im hoping that the statistics will still be very high. I mean , still be very high. I mean, shes a great asset to our royal family and we need her. I mean, she totally is. How do you think this is impacting the royal family at large . Not having the princess of wales in the picture at the moment. And of course, this whole furore around this, this picture, because as you say, she is a great asset to them. Shes absolutely, shes, shes, shes well missed, and, and but as we can see, i think the royal family are doing a tremendous job, and, you know, and im surprised actually, as well, the duke and duchess of edinburgh , i think are given edinburgh, i think are given a little bit more air time now. And i know its to down also, the dukes, 60th birthday recently, but i think giving them more air time is good because theyre a really strong, likeable couple, very easy with people. And i think thats a good platform. Obviously. The queen camilla. Fabulous but, you know, were all missing, the princess of wales. Were missing her glamour, her clothes, you know, everything. And i think from abroad as well. Again, in the states , people like my the states, people like my circle, you know, people like to see her all the time. You know, people are missing her pictures on the front of the papers and the media. And so she is missed, and thats good. And i, we just hope that this all blows over. I think its really, its got gone too far. But you know, the conspiracy theories, i dont know where will that stop . I dont understand it personally. I mean, some of these things that are coming out are crazy, but it doesnt stop people. It but it doesnt stop people. It doesnt stop people, does it . Im afraid it doesnt. So no, im afraid it doesnt. So world we live in at the moment. Helena, good to see you. Thanks very indeed. Very much indeed. Thank you so much. Thank you stephen, you. Thank stephen, thank you. Thank you. Lets a now, at 6 19, lets take a look at other stories look at some other stories coming the newsroom and coming into the newsroom and failed seekers will be failed Asylum Seekers will be paid £3,000 to move to rwanda under a new voluntary government scheme to clear the migrant backlog. The agreement with the african nation is designed to remove migrants who have no legal right to stay in the uk, but cannot be returned to their home country. The safety of home country. The safety of rwanda bill, which designed rwanda bill, which is designed to secure the deportation flights, returns to the commons next week , downing street has next week, downing street has said. Comments allegedly made by a tory donor about the mp, diane abbott were racist and wrong. It comes as the police are understood to have been contacted over Frank Hesters alleged remarks. The alleged remarks. The conservative partys biggest donor reportedly made those comments, but has apologised and says he abhors racism. Miss abbott, who is now an independent mp, described the comments as frightening and worrying. Worrying. A leading charity has reportedly revealed that fertility clinics are giving women false hope over their chances of conceiving a child after freezing their eggs, according to the sectors watchdog, 40 of clinics fail to state the likelihood of becoming pregnant following the treatment. The statistics show that success rates are lower than when using fresh eggs. Between 20 to 30. Now, if you live in a place called watchet , which is called watchet, which is governed by Somerset County council , governed by Somerset County council, apparently theres a real pothole problem. So you think , well, Somerset Council think, well, Somerset Council should be getting on with it. Apparently apparently theyre saying to People Living there, well fill them in yourselves. Now, can you imagine the chaos 21 potholes in this particular road that people have got to fill in themselves . Where do you even begin . Well, we sent jeff moody along to investigate. They call it the most potholed road in england. In england. There are 21 of these holes just on this tiny stretch of road alone, and some of them are really quite deep , a hazard for really quite deep, a hazard for many. A serious danger to the elderly. Sheila nicholls is 101. Shes one of somersets oldest residents, and she lives on the street with her husband, bill. I do feel frightened if its too difficult for the people on the to job do anything about it, we know we cant do anything about it, so its almost as if youre youre at a point, yeah, its hopeless , but yes, its hopeless, but yes, completely hopeless. Completely hopeless. Someones going to get really hurt. Someones going to get some damage to their car. And then we will be the state. We wont be able to use the road. Its serious. Thats all very serious. Serious. Bill and sheila have been campaigning for months, writing to the council, raising awareness of the state of the road outside their front door along with their neighbours. I mean, we got up a petition, last june, everyone signed it and we sent it off to the council. We didnt hear a word. Council. We didnt hear a word. So, you know, not even a no, were not doing anything or yes, were not doing anything or yes, we are doing anything. Just nothing at. Youre awful. And i think that you can say that about potholes, but these are extra special deluxe potholes. Extra special deluxe potholes. A spokesman for Somerset Council says whilst there are some potholes, the lane carries a public footpath which is still accessible for walkers. This lane is a public right of way, not a public road. Therefore the responsibility for the upkeep of this lane is complex and there will need to be a shared approach to maintenance Going Forward. Residents claim six people have already been injured as a result of the potholes. The as a result of the potholes. The hopeis as a result of the potholes. The hope is something can be done before anybody else gets hurt. But with no one quite knowing whos responsible for maintaining the road, its unlikely anything will be done any time soon. Jeff moody, gb news news. Well, joining us now is highway and pothole expert dave gaster. Really good to see you this morning, dave. I mean, potholes are just the bane of britains roads arent they. And some people might say, you know, its just potholes. But the reality is they can be really, really dangerous. Very dangerous indeed. Daily, and thank you for having me on, it was interesting just hearing that, news bite. Theyre talking about public rights of way and dont have the same rights. And yet, mark morrell, mr pothole and i have helped another person successfully get a public right of way. Repaired. And it has a complexity , but it also has complexity, but it also has section 56 notices can be appued section 56 notices can be applied on it. So we can help , applied on it. So we can help, and that help is needed. Why is it do you think . I mean, i know they always say money, but its a false economy, isnt it, that a lot of councils are sort of cheap filling any problems on on the road surface rather than doing a proper job. Rather than doing a properjob. So those potholes are just back within a matter of weeks. I mean, it just seems a crazy situation. Absolutely. Lee, stephen, it absolutely. Lee, stephen, it effectively you get some deliberately, temporary, repairs that are done and they fail. But also you have the wrong type of repair for the type of failure , repair for the type of failure, and it will fail those roads around here. We had 28 potholes repaired recently. The road is just as bad now, six months on, so unless you actually understand the cause of failure, you wont get the right repair. So there is some complexity about that. As to the cost, about that. As to the cost, there is a cost of crashes, on roads, which is 43. 2 billion a yeah roads, which is 43. 2 billion a year. And if that were factored in properly into how well managed roads are , then you managed roads are, then you could actually stop this being a problem. Problem. How do we fix this . I mean, who does it come down to . There was a by election a few weeks ago. Steve might remember which one it was, and it was one that kingswood , i think it was. The kingswood, i think it was. The candidate said in her victory speech. This had been won on local issues. It had been won on things like potholes, which is remarkable because potholes comes local council, comes down to the local council, doesnt it . It has nothing to do with the local mp, but i think the point that was making the point that she was making was is local issues that was it is local issues that people care and people people care about, and people are frustrated theyd go to are so frustrated theyd go to anyone help. Anyone for help. Are basically be in potholes are basically be in the top three problems for mps and for councillors, and its a lot of its down to lack of investment , the government have investment, the government have basically halved their amount of investment into roads from 15 years ago , and local authorities years ago, and local authorities are increasingly , having to are increasingly, having to stretch their budgets. They call stretch their budgets. They call themselves having a balanced budget when actually their roads are getting worse every year. And theres no single minister responsible for roads that on its own is if you made a roads minister responsible for crashes, then this would be solved. And thats a lot to do solved. And thats a lot to do with why mark and i have launched curing pothole britain. Well, ill tell you what. If anyone if there was ever a time to campaign for a roads minister, its now in the run up to a big general election. So you never know. Dave. Good to talk to you. Thanks very much indeed. I think thatd be a very popular idea, actually. Dont you minister for roads . Dont you minister for roads . Dont you minister for roads . That would be nice people out there. Yeah, it would, it would all right. Lets see what the weathers going to do for you today. Heres alex. A brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Morning. Heres your latest weather for gb news from the met office. More rain to come as we go through today, but at least it is going to be pretty mild before a showery day for tomorrow. Like i said though, plenty of rain around today, a band its northwards band pushing its way northwards into parts of scotland across northern ireland, some of northern ireland, and some of that could turn heavy. Even that rain could turn heavy. Even a little bit of wintry ness, some sleet or snow over the highest ground more highest ground across more eastern england. Its eastern parts of england. Its actually going to be largely fine. Decent sunshine fine. Some decent sunshine through the day, but through much of the day, but cloud outbreaks of showery cloud and outbreaks of showery rain up from the rain feeding up from the southwest some brisk, southwest on some brisk, blustery like i said blustery winds like i said though, on the mild side temperatures are well above average for the time of year for most of us, though little bit most of us, though a little bit chillier towards the north. More rain to come as we go through the the day, particularly the end of the day, particularly across scotland. But it across parts of scotland. But it does to push we go does start to push away as we go into tomorrow. There will be some skies tonight, some clear skies around tonight, but further outbreaks of but also further outbreaks of showery some of these showery rain, and some of these could pack punch. There could really pack a punch. There could really pack a punch. There could occasional could be the occasional downpour. Temperatures, though not dropping a huge amount because blustery winds not dropping a huge amount becethe blustery winds not dropping a huge amount becethe generallsttery winds not dropping a huge amount becethe generally mild winds not dropping a huge amount becethe generally mild theme to and the generally mild theme to things. Many staying in things. Many places staying in double overnight as we double figures overnight as we go friday itself, then go through friday itself, then a largely showery blustery day largely showery and blustery day for many of us. Watch out as some of those showers could be heavy, thundery, heavy, possibly even thundery, particularly heavy, possibly even thundery, part southeast of the uk. Signs and southeast of the uk. Signs of something a little bit drier pushing from west. But pushing in from the west. But for many it is going to be a largely showery picture. Largely showery picture. Temperatures still well above average the time of year, so average for the time of year, so highs around 16, possibly 17 highs of around 16, possibly 17 celsius by that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Thanks, alex. Now spring is in the air and so is your chance to win a garden gadget package. Thatis to win a garden gadget package. That is really difficult to say. A shopping spree and an incredible £12,345 in tax free cash. Incredible £12,345 in tax free cash. Heres how you can make cash. Heres how you can make all those prizes yours. Weve got cash, treats and a spnng weve got cash, treats and a spring shopping spree to be won in a Great British giveaway. You could win an amazing £12,345 in tax free cash. Plus, theres a further £500 of shopping vouchers to spend at your favourite store. Well also give you a gadget package to use in your garden this spring. 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And i was like, well, its one, two, three, four, five. And yeah, now its quite catchy. Yeah. It is. Yeah, all right, sport, heading your way in just a moment. Whats in the garden . Package. Yeah, the gadget package. Yeah, the garden package. Of garden package. Gadget. Loads of stuff. Garden package. There pizza speaker, is there pizza oven speaker, gameboy thing . Gameboy style thing . Well . Didnt he do well . Didnt he do well . Didnt he do well . Didnt he do i know . Didnt he do i know . And a cuddly toy. And a cuddly toy. The cuddly toy. Yes. And the cuddly toy. Yeah. Tell you about the yeah. So tell you about the sport . Yeah. Got some sport . Yeah. Weve got some things on. Luton, paul, things going on. Luton, paul, luton gone well for luton luton hasnt gone well for luton last night. Theyve broke well. Theres who have last night. Theyve broke well. Therewhat who have last night. Theyve broke well. Therewhat luton who have last night. Theyve broke well. Therewhat luton did who have last night. Theyve broke well. Therewhat luton did didntave last night. Theyve broke well. Therewhat luton did didnt do done what luton did or didnt do as the case may be last night. Its not great and well discuss in well, its time to go through all the latest sports news. Now with paul coyte, who is here with paul coyte, who is here with us. And shall we start with luton town . Shall we . Luton town played bournemouth last night. This was in the game that was postponed in the game that was postponed in do remember tom in december. Do you remember tom lockyer who the captain had lockyer who was the captain had the arrest on pitch the cardiac arrest on the pitch anyway. Postponed the the cardiac arrest on the pitch anywajreplayed postponed the the cardiac arrest on the pitch anyway replayed itostponed the the cardiac arrest on the pitch anyway replayed it lastoned the the cardiac arrest on the pitch anyway replayed it last night. � |e game, replayed it last night. Tom was there and it was very emotional because he met, all the medical people that had actually saved him and were fantastic. So it was very emotional for him. But trust me, if youve got a bad heart and youre a luton fan, this was not the game that you want to be at. So it started off really well for luton. I mean, and ill go through what happened at the game nil up very soon game there. One nil up very soon then nil up they went three then two nil up they went three nil up. Everythings looking nil up. So everythings looking great to half time great coming up to half time luton fans are singing. The town are because luton you are staying up because luton you know theyre in the bottom echelons i love that word. Thank you much. Ive never used you very much. Ive never used it before. Very good of the it before. Its very good of the premier so are premier league. So things are not things are not looking not so things are not looking good for bournemouth. Luton. Everybodys it like everybodys happy. It looks like its so then its a fantastic day. So then the half. So then the second half. So then bournemouth out and then bournemouth come out and then they score. The 50th they score. Then in the 50th minute. Its three 1 62 minute. So its three 1 62 minute. So its three 1 62 minute. Its three 260. Fourth minute. Its three 260. Fourth minute is three three. Yeah. And when it comes to sport its all about momentum. Oh its just going to say that oh i know i wish id got in i would say thats what it is. Its the momentum. Again i always talk about the momentum but thats what it is. So the momentum is going against luton 82nd minute Antoine Semenyo makes it four three. And theres only four other teams, one of them being spurs in 2001 that were three nil up at half time to end up blowing it. Its nil up at half time to end up blowing it. Its only nil up at half time to end up blowing it. Its only two that blowing it. Its only two that have actually been at half time, three and three nil up that spurs and leicester. It turned leicester. And when it turned when tide turns against you when the tide turns against you the tide really proper. The tide really so proper. Seven goal thriller. Seven goal thriller. Thats exactly what it was. Thats what i was going to say. I cant believe that. Yeah but anyway it was three up luton end up losing four three when it happened to spurs back in 2001. I was on the way back from houday i was on the way back from holiday and i was in a car. I still remember this and i was in a cab and i said, by the way, you havent heard what the spurs score is. And the cab driver went, oh yeah, you were three nil up at half time and he lost five three. And i went, ha ha. Very funny. Tell what really very funny. Tell me what really happened. Went, no. Happened. And he went, no. And i didnt tip him because i was so annoyed. Really. I thought, just tell truth. And when tell me the truth. And when i got back and then i realised he was telling the you was telling me the truth. You rotten. Know, but rotten. I know, i know, but i thought he was lying to me. So there you go. Not expected Champions League . There you go. Not expected champi please. |ue . There you go. Not expected champi please. Into whats yes, please. Into whats going inter milan, milan. Well, this is a brief one because yesterday i still got through penalties there through on penalties and there hasnt shootout through on penalties and there ha eight shootout through on penalties and there ha eight the shootout through on penalties and there haeight the champions in eight years in the Champions League. Like the london league. And then like the london buses two trot. Buses you get two on the trot. And inter milan went through and i say atletico madrid. I should say atletico madrid. Sorry, fans sorry, inter milan fans really got excited second, didnt got excited for a second, didnt you . Were got excited for a second, didnt you ones were got excited for a second, didnt you ones that were got excited for a second, didnt you ones that got were got excited for a second, didnt you ones that got through nere got excited for a second, didnt you ones that got through one the ones that got through on penalties. Been the penalties. But had it been the old rule away goals which old rule of away goals which doesnt anymore, it would doesnt exist anymore, it would have inter but have been inter milan. But its now madrid. Ill now atletico madrid. Well, ill explain brucia explain that later. Yeah. Brucia dortmund beat Psv Eindhoven two nil. Psv eindhoven, which is philips sport vereniging. Philips sport vereniging. Vereniging which is actually dutch for association. Oh you talk about Cheltenham Festival . Yes. Willie mullins. So willie yes. Willie mullins. So Willie Mullins is the talk of cheltenham . Well, betty is always has been, but even more so now because hes got hes 100th winner. Oh, look at that hat. Its a 100th winner. Oh, look at that hat. Its a great hat. Its a great cheltenham hat. Its a great cheltenham hat. That one it is. That one it is. Its either a cheltenham hat or its a gangsters hat from the 1930s. He must be rolling in cash. He must be rolling in cash. He must be rolling in cash. He really must be rolling in cash, always think of. Cash, 100th. I always think of. Is he a very lucky man . Is he a very lucky man . Well, i dont think he just knows hes a lucky man. I think hes a very good trainer. Thats what it is. Trainer. Thats his son. We saw his there. Patrick. So, his son there. Patrick. So, i mean, he the jockey . Was mean, is he the jockey . He was the jockey. For the 100th the jockey. So for the 100th winner, his horse. And it winner, it was his horse. And it was his son that rode the horse. You cant that. You cant. Its lovely. And also 40 years ago, you can see the lightness actually. Yeah. You can are. And by the can there we are. And by the way, and the trophy is related to well. Can almost way, and the trophy is related to the well. Can almost way, and the trophy is related to the likeness can almost way, and the trophy is related to the likeness there an almost way, and the trophy is related to the likeness there as almost way, and the trophy is related to the likeness there as well. St see the likeness there as well. Oh theyre far. Oh very good. And theyre far. Well grandfather well patricks grandfather and, the mullins. Yes. And the Willie Mullins. Yes. And willies grandfather. No. Willies grandfather. No. Willies father , won the gold willies father, won the gold cup 40 years ago on a horse called dawn run. So its all called dawn run. So its all ties up. Its in the family. Its in the family. Hes all in the. Just very briefly. Because i just want to say kamila valieva. Oh, yes. Valieva , now, this is kamila valieva, now, this is theice kamila valieva, now, this is the ice skater. Remember the ice skater. Do you remember this . She was the one that, had this . She was the one that, had the olympic gold medal taken away from. Thats right, the strawberry cheesecake, because it granddads cheesecake it was a granddads cheesecake that she was doping. That she said she was doping. She was caught doping. And she said it was the drug that was in her grandfathers cheesecake, well, since then, the of well, since then, the court of arbitration for sport have worked out there were 56 different medications in her sample. So either there was tons more in that cheesecake or shed been doping seriously. And although we make a joke about it, this is between the ages of 13 and 15. Yeah. And shes not done it herself. Just horrendous. So the russian authorities and the and the coaches who have been doping her, shes the one thats been pretty much had to take the fall for everything. And shes she was 15 years old. So between the ages of 13, 15 heart drugs, muscle boosting supplements, some which are only for some legal which are only for now performance enhancing. So its horrible story its just a horrible story really. But its a lot of performance drugs, performance enhancing drugs, isnt performance enhancing drugs, isnbut shes the shes the but shes the shes the victim. She the victim. Totally. She is the victim. Totally. Shes victim. Shes the victim. Right, paul, thank you all right, paul, thank you very much indeed. We shall see you later. You a little bit later. To that. Do i look forward to that. Do you . I i look forward to that. Do you . I much do. You . I very much do. Thank thank first thank you. Thank you. First time for everything. Race now. I know the race now. I know the race now. It time that we give the is it time that we give the princess of wales a break . Were going discussing that next going to be discussing that next in thats next. 641. Lets have a look at some of the newspaper front pages for you this morning. Yes, and the guardian leads with diane abbott accusing tory mps of playing the race card. The independent says diane abbott has accused both labour and the tories of shocking racism. The Daily Telegraph says that Michael Goves plans to identify muslim groups as extremist goes into more details about that. Into more details about that. The express says plans to send deportation flights to rwanda are in a good place, and the times says that deaths from cancer in middle aged people have fallen by a third. Well, thats some good news, isnt it . It is actually, especially when you bear in mind that diagnoses have up as well, diagnoses have gone up as well, down obesity. Really . Yeah. Yeah. So actually catching it early, thats what youve got to do. Frightening as it is. Lets see then what our guests make of all of that. Weve got former adviser to michael gove whos on the programme a little bit later on, actually rowley and on, actually Charlie Rowley and writer and commentator Candice Holdsworth. Good morning to you both. Morning charlie. Both. Good morning charlie. Morning, morning. Lets start with abbott thing. With this diane abbott thing. Should we. Yes. Well, nobody knows anything about this story, apart from that, its been dominating the news agenda for the last 24, 48 hours, where a tony tory party donor, frank hester , made party donor, frank hester, made some of the most outrageous comments , i think that weve comments, i think that weve heard in some time, which are totally deplorable , totally totally deplorable, totally disgusting, totally racist, which has been condemned by the Prime Minister, other secretaries of state. Well eventually leading and, yes. And eventually leading and, yes. And i think, you know, until the comments i think were verified, i think there was still a little bit of, managing of how to how to respond. But Kemi Badenoch obviously came out, very strongly to say that these comments were racist. These were backed up former chancellor backed up by, former chancellor Kwasi Kwarteng and, and the Prime Minister. But the comments that are totally unacceptable within the party. But diane abbott has responded to those comments today talking about racism in both parties, that it needs to be stamped out. And she herself is shes not a member, current member of the parliamentary labour party. Shes had the whip withdrawn because comments that shes because of comments that shes made past, but shes made in the past, but shes essentially saying that she didnt, she was effectively shocked, but not surprised that it came from a tory party donor, and she thinks that that will play and she thinks that that will play a huge part within the next general election. General election. Its a its a difficult one. Shes the butt of a lot of jokes, isnt she . Diane abbott . Jokes, isnt she . Diane abbott . Shes. Shes not what you would call a popular figure amongst a group of people. Would this have been as controversial if he hadnt been as controversial if he hadnt referred to the. I mean, he did refer to the fact she is a black woman. If he hadnt have done that , would it have been done that, would it have been just taken as fine , i dont just taken as fine, i dont think so, because there was the element of sort of wanting to shoot her and, you know , shoot her and, you know, inciting of sort of violence. And, you know, when we have mps that come under a lot of scrutiny. But but youre right, you know, whatever the problems we in this country, i mean, we have in this country, i mean, diane abbott not the diane abbott is not the solution. Dont think solution. And i dont think anybody, take with anybody, would take issue with that. Been that. As i say, shes been suspended by the labour party herself because of things that she in past. So shes she said in the past. So shes no shrinking to kind no shrinking violet, to kind these kinds of comments. Shes made them herself. But it has obviously shone a light onto the parties, the main political parties, the main political parties, when it comes to the general election , what kind of general election, what kind of campaign theyre going to run, how personal its going to be and how divisive that campaign will be for the country. Candace, what do you make of it all . Yeah, look, i think his comments crossed a line. True. Diane abbott is its true. Diane abbott is someone people criticise a someone that people criticise a lot. Know, think when lot. But, you know, i think when youre starting to get into race and and youre and gender and when youre talking her, talking about shooting her, youve far. But youve gone too far. Yeah. But i think this is i think the conservatives are going to be so angry about this right now because they really dont want the focus them this point the focus on them at this point in you know, especially in in time. You know, especially in an they dont an election campaign, they dont want embroiled in another want to be embroiled in another sort of race controversy. Sort of like race controversy. But is going to keep but this is going to keep happening. And think, like happening. And i think, like charlie its actually charlie says, its actually going a nasty going to be quite a nasty campaign. Youre going to see a lot ad hominem going lot of ad hominem attacks going back and forth. But interesting. These comments made 2019, comments were made in 2019, werent so werent they . I know, so someones sitting on we someones been sitting on we havent just discovered them, been and then been sitting on them and then released course released them of course a suitable time. And this is very yes. And this is a very suitable time. About the money . What about the money . The money. The money. Ten, £10 million thats been donated over however long i donated in over however long i know, pm says. Well, im not giving it back. Oh, see, that puts him in such a difficult position because people would say if you really to distance really wanted to distance yourself from these comments, yourself from these comments, you would give back. Yeah, you would give it back. Yeah, but would be so damaging, but that would be so damaging, wouldnt it . Cant probably you cant probably they probably havent got 10 million in give it back. In the bank to give it back. No, no. 110. No. Want iio. No. Want all the money no. Want all the money they they want all the money they can get for this campaign. Also think on can get for this campaign. 10 also think on can get for this campaign. 10 million so think on can get for this campaign. 10 million i think on can get for this campaign. 10 million i mean, on can get for this campaign. 10 million i mean, i on can get for this campaign. 10 million i mean, i dont that 10 million i mean, i dont want to, why would you want to effectively against effectively reward against somebody for these comments . You know, why would you want him better off him £10 million better off having comments . Having made these comments . I think better spent , think the money is better spent, on good causes or championing, a black and minority ethnic groups within within the conservative party or becoming more party or or becoming more inclusive. Party or or becoming more inciyeah. You accepting or yeah. Are you accepting or even enabling his language, though, if youre accepting his money, i dont think so. If youve called it out and obviously called it as racist and hes had to come out and apologise. But i think just handing the money back would seem to be a bit of seem to me to be a bit of a reward. You know, hed be 10 million, million off million, £10 million better off having comments. And having made the comments. And i just thats, thats, just dont think thats, thats, thats. Thats idealised. A very oh, youre well thats a very oh, youre a good politician. A very good politician. Good politician. Im very a good politician. Thank you. Thank you. Very good. Very good. Candice. Thank you. Hes now candice. Thank you. Hes now turned up. Well, there you go. And flights to compliments and flights to rwanda. Oh, controversial as always. It looks like we always. And now it looks like we may people £3,000 to get on board. Yes. So this is a story thats on the front page of the daily just yet another daily express, just yet another chapter ongoing rwanda chapter in the ongoing rwanda saga. But a note of saga. But this is a note of optimism from the home office , optimism from the home office, because they say that they think the flights are going take the flights are going to take off because the bill is set to become this week, and become law this week, and theyre going overturn theyre going to overturn several amendments that were theyre going to overturn severeinimendments that were theyre going to overturn severein the 1dments that were theyre going to overturn severein the house s that were theyre going to overturn severein the house s tlordsere theyre going to overturn severein the house s tlords. e theyre going to overturn severein the house s tlords. But made in the house of lords. But of like you say, this is of course, like you say, this is also happening amidst this new announcement that migrants are going to be paid £3,000 to relocate to rwanda , which i relocate to rwanda, which i think has gone down very badly, and most people are highly sceptical of, i dont quite understand why incentives need to be paid. Well. Well. Exactly. And people say this could be a pull factor as well. You know, if people think that theyre get £3,000, theyre going to get £3,000, that that might make that might think that might make them well, maybe them calculate, well, maybe i should the risk try and should take the risk and try and get to britain because i may i may get money and robert jenrick. Home office jenrick. The former Home Office Minister well, this minister has said, well, this shows that theyre shows the fact that theyre using incentives, shows using cash incentives, shows i was right that this bill is just not strong enough. Its not going to work. Youre not going to be able to get migrants to go using the law. Well thats interesting charlie. Interesting charlie. Well i think two things i mean i think the reason why the bill is where it is, is because if you go too far then obviously rwanda pull the plug as rwanda would pull the plug as a country on the scheme in total. So have scheme so you wouldnt have any scheme at to keep at all. So youve got to keep the scheme currently the rwanda scheme currently where it is. I mean, i where it where it is. I mean, i think on £3,000 this would think on the £3,000 this would be think targeted, its to be i think targeted, its up to £3,000. Might be that £3,000. So it might not be that for every person. But ultimately i think the country needs to decide does it want. You decide what does it want. You know, wants people have know, it wants people who have come to come here illegally to effectively back home. It effectively go back home. It doesnt a taxpayer doesnt want to have a taxpayer bill reaching the billions of pounds that it does to put people up in hotel rooms when the hasnt been the processing hasnt been done quick although that is quick enough. Although that is obviously getting better. So i think if you can incentivise people who are here currently illegally way to return illegally in any way to return to their home country where there isnt a returns agreement in place, obviously is in place, obviously there is with albania, 90 of with albania, where 90 of people come into this people that have come into this country albania have been returned. Theyre here, but the but if theyre here, but the argument if theyre argument would be if theyre here and were talking here illegally and were talking about to about this, £3,000 would go to people illegally , people who are here illegally, but then would get on a plane to rwanda to resettle. If theyre rwanda to resettle. If theyre here illegally, why cant we just remove them . Well, it would be. I think youre absolutely right. I mean, it would to be rwanda or back to the to their country, but the to their home country, but where, you where there where, i, you know, where there may people and the whole may be people and the whole point of the rwanda bill is to prevent legal challenge, where people been earmarked people who have been earmarked for rwanda, where for deportation to rwanda, where weve kangaroo courts of weve had the kangaroo courts of judges the middle judges getting out in the middle of block those of the night to block those flights block people flights and to block people being because they cry being deported because they cry foul of doing so. This would help, i think, incentivise people just to get on the plane and to go and start a new life, obviously in a country where they but where you cannot they can, but where you cannot just in the uk when just settle in the uk when youve into country illegally. Well, charlie, lets stay with you, shall we . Because im really interested know really interested to know your thoughts boss, thoughts on your former boss, michael and this new michael gove. And this new definition extremism that definition of extremism that hell talking to us about hell be talking to us about later. What do you expect him to say . What do you make of it . So i think itll be a welcome announcement, actually, because i think itll be a welcome announbeennt, actually, because i think itll be a welcome announbeennt, muchlly, because i think itll be a welcome announ been nt, much chatteriuse i think itll be a welcome annothe eennt, much chatteriuse i think itll be a welcome annothe last1t, much chatteriuse i think itll be a welcome annothe last couple1 chatteriuse i think itll be a welcome annothe last couple1 cweeksuse over the last couple of weeks about about , over the last couple of weeks about about, you over the last couple of weeks about about , you know, about language, about, you know, weve had lee anderson obviously defecting the tory party defecting from the tory party to, to, to reform because of the way in which the country is run because of a feeling amongst the country that actually the police cant combat extremism or language when its used. Language when its used. And this is just a new definition of what extremism will be. And it is effectively saying that if you are on the far right or if you are, a group who wants to divide muslim communities, if you want to separate yourself from society, if you incite a hatred in any way, if you are currently advising a Government Organisation or a local Charity Organisation or a local charity or a local council , you will or a local council, you will have no part to play. You will be named and shamed by the secretary of state, michael gove, to make it absolutely clear that if you are a group that purports these kinds of views, that there is no place in the uk society for you, and i think that will be a welcome move by by many this work. Its difficult to candace, its difficult to say. Mean, you know, this say. I mean, you know, this comes at, after a report actually very interestingly by Christopher Hitchens, the late Christopher Hitchens, the late Christopher Hitchens, the late Christopher Hitchens son, Alexander Hitchens, whos actually done a big report into extremism in the uk. And he says what we should be doing, which is part of what michael gove said he will do , is start to said he will do, is start to focus on certain organisations, you know, be very empirical about it, find certain organisations that are doing things that are counter to Democratic Values , such as he Democratic Values, such as he was saying, you know, these blasphemy activists who played a big role in forcing the teacher in batley into hiding or to shutting down that lady of heaven film at the cinema. And he says, target those groups directly. You know, as most directly. You know, as most people, as many people have said, as many people have raised concerns, within the concerns, even within the conservative party, social conservatives , if you just have conservatives, if you just have a definition extremism, you a definition of extremism, you know, that be used against know, could that be used against people have people who maybe have values which are maybe not very liberal, but are within the british tradition , theyre british tradition, theyre social conservative values, whereas, alexander whereas, you know, Alexander Hitchens says no target groups directly that, you know , are directly that, you know, are doing things which are, you know, dont dont comport with uk law. We dont have blasphemy laws in this country. So target people who are trying to impose de facto blasphemy through activism , death threats. Maybe activism, death threats. Maybe thats a better of doing it. Thats a better way of doing it. Ill tell you what. Maybe ill tell you what. Whereas i can sort of whereas i can see the sort of the common sense in this. What worries me slightly is the unintended consequences sort of sort of area of this, charlie, you know, the, the idea that is this, in effect, a crackdown on free speech, which could or maybe not now, but could it in the future be a crackdown on free speech . Yes. And theres certainly a yes. And theres certainly a move to, giving greater autonomy and greater responsibility to, ministers. And that has to come with accountability. Also because we were just talking about the rwanda bill, for example, it will be up to the home secretary or the minister within the home office to decide exactly who should be deported and there , and who shouldnt. So there, basically upholding where basically upholding uk law where there challenges. In this there are challenges. In this case, it would be the secretary of state again, to name and shame those individuals or groups. So were seeing, i groups. And so were seeing, i think, direct intervention, direct action by the government, but youre right, that does come with a number of, consequences. If there should be legal challenge or anything like that. But i think in terms of a move, it is absolutely right now to try and name and shame and call out those people who are trying to divide us as a society where the police feel they cannot act against certain groups or individuals giving them the power the cover , power or giving them the cover, i should say, to disassociate themselves groups, themselves with those groups, whether its the local council or charity, because theyve been named by the named and called out by the secretary state, i can secretary of state, i think can only welcome and good move. Only be a welcome and good move. Should we take a look at grant shapps, whos been speaking to gb news about defence budget . Gb news about defence budget . Lets have a listen to what you had say. Had to say. Undeniably a more nothing is undeniably a more dangerous weve got war dangerous world. Weve got a war in europe. Weve a conflict in europe. Weve got a conflict in europe. Weve got a conflict in middle east. So i think in the middle east. So i think its that up our its important that we up our spending. Are committed to spending. We are committed to 2. 5. Note that labour say 2. 5. I note that labour say theyre committed to the 2 figure thats already a £7 billion cut from where were up to now , so they are not the to now, so they are not the answer. And as you say , ive answer. And as you say, ive rightly, i think, called for more money. I should just say that this budget actually has added 1. 8 in real terms to our defence budget. Defence budget. The defence secretary, charlie, wanting his 3, just briefly. Do you think he will get it , i briefly. Do you think he will get it, i think he may. And i think that would be, music to the ears of, lots of conservatives. But i think youve got to be able to justify the spending. And when there are constraints within the uk economy, its about now i think, trying to understand what kind of conflict we face and where our interventions lie. It had moved from boots on the ground to technology, intelligence. To technology, intelligence. Drones, for example, are a key part of the fight against terror now. But i think were seeing as the defence secretary was saying, in ukraine and particularly in gaza, it is now moving back to boots on the ground. Well just have to ground. So well just have to wait where that funding wait and see where that funding comes. It does, charlie, comes. And if it does, charlie, candice, you much indeed. Thank you. Thank you. Has weather for you i a a brighter outlook with boxt solar , the sponsors of weather solar, the sponsors of weather on gb news. Morning. Heres your latest weather for gb news from the met office. More rain to come as we go through today, but at least it is going to be pretty mild before a showery day for tomorrow. Like i said though, plenty rain around today, plenty of rain around today, a band its northwards band pushing its way northwards into parts of scotland across northern ireland, and some of that rain could turn heavy. Even that rain could turn heavy. Even a little bit of wintry ness, some or snow the some sleet or snow over the highest ground across more eastern england. Eastern parts of england. Its actually to be largely actually going to be largely fine. Some decent sunshine through much the day, through much of the day, but cloud and outbreaks of showery rain feeding the rain feeding up from the southwest on some brisk, blustery winds. Like i said though, the side though, on the mild side temperatures are well above average for the of year. Average for the time of year. For of us, though, a little for most of us, though, a little bit chillier north. Bit chillier towards the north. More come as we go more rain to come as we go through end of the day, through the end of the day, particularly across parts of scotland. Start to scotland. But it does start to push away as we go into tomorrow. Some tomorrow. There will be some clear skies around tonight, but also of also further outbreaks of showery rain , and some of these showery rain, and some of these could really a punch. There could really pack a punch. There could really pack a punch. There could occasional downpour could be the occasional downpour for temperatures, though, not dropping because dropping a huge amount because of blustery winds and the of the blustery winds and the generally mild theme of things. Many staying in double many places staying in double figures overnight we figures overnight as we go through friday itself, then a largely showery and blustery day for watch out as for many of us, watch out as some those showers could be some of those showers could be heavy, possibly even thundery, particularly south particularly towards the south and the uk. Signs and southeast of the uk. Signs of a little bit drier of something a little bit drier pushing in from the west, but for it is going to be for many it is going to be a largely showery picture. Temperatures still well above average for the time of year, so highs of around possibly highs of around 16, possibly 17 celsius by that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. Good morning to you. It is 7 00 on thursday, the 14th of march. Already frightening today the government set to name and shame islamist and far right groups that incite hatred. As number 10 releases a new definition of extremism. Its all being handled by michael gove , and well talk to him gove, and well talk to him later in the programme. Later in the programme. Feuding brothers Prince William and prince harry are set to honour their mother, Princess Diana, at an event today , but diana, at an event today, but they wont be seen together. Meanwhile , the princess of meanwhile, the princess of wales is crowned britains favourite royal. But that survey, conducted before the mothers day photo Scandal Research reveals that britons are scared to talk about death that despite an increasing pubuc that despite an increasing Public Interest in things like true crime, podcasts , and were true crime, podcasts, and were asking today, once a cheat, always a cheat. Well, stats suggest infidelity is on the rise, but can a leopard really change its spots . Youll never get cheats in sport , you know, anyway, i dont sport, you know, anyway, i dont like sporting cliches , but in like sporting cliches, but in this case, bournemouth and luton play this case, bournemouth and luton play out the ultimate game of two halves, Willie Mullins becomes the first person to train 100 cheltenham winners, and theres bound to be more as well. And the unofficial fifth golf major is not quite as major as it was morning. Whilst there will be some fine weather across eastern parts today, elsewhere its going to be a wetter story. And then tomorrows looking showery. Ill have the details shortly. Ill have the details shortly. Morning to you. Morning to you. Im Stephen Dixon and im Ellie Costello and this is breakfast on. Gb news. Breakfast on. Gb news. Now, do you find playing with rex calming the dog . Thats the dog, by the way. Is that rex calming the dog . Thats the dog, by the way. Is that calming to you . Is it good for your mood . . I it 7 it can 7 it can be. 7 it can be. It 7 it can be. It depends . It can be. It depends if hes being playful as a puppy. Its very big as well. Its very big as well. A very big puppy. Or whether hes in a sort of relaxed, sleepy mood. If hes if hes relaxed and sleepy, its lovely. You like cuddle . You like a cuddle . You like a cuddle . I do a cuddle. I do like a cuddle. I do like a cuddle. Well, apparently with i do like a cuddle. Dog3ll, apparently with i do like a cuddle. Dog changesently with i do like a cuddle. Dog changesentlbrainwaves ith i do like a cuddle. Dog changesentlbrainwaves. H i do like a cuddle. Dog changesentlbrainwaves. It a dog changes our brainwaves. It boosts relaxation and concentration while reducing stress and depression from boffins in south korea , boffins in south korea, according to the daily star. Its always boffins, isnt it . Boffins in south korea say they should be prescribed for Mental Health now that is a great idea. Id like to be a dog, prescribed a dog. Would you . Yeah. Would you . Yeah. Cost you £9. 75 on the nhs. Cost you £9. 75 on the nhs. I paid for a dog. I paid 975 for a dog. I paid 975 for a dog. Whatever it is for a prescription, they are good though. I cuddling them is so calming. Same for though as well. Same for cats though as well. They take them round old folks homes dont they . Homes and things dont they . Yeah, a great idea. Yeah, its a great idea. I feel like a cuddle means more from theyre from a cat because theyre a bit more to get. From a cat because theyre a bit mo yeah, to get. From a cat because theyre a bit mo yeah, you get. From a cat because theyre a bit mo yeah, you know, they wouldnt yeah, you know, they wouldnt cuddle everyone. They cuddle everyone. No they wouldnt, would, wouldnt, whereas dogs would, i think. Wouldnt, whereas dogs would, i thirno, i think its a lot to be no, i think its a lot to be said for animals. It should a said for animals. It should be a nafion said for animals. It should be a nation of animals. Were meant to of animal lovers. To be a nation of animal lovers. We are, arent we . Oh, we are, arent we . Oh, we are, arent we . Well, yeah, but theres still these cross goes on. Love our dogs , but on. Love our dogs , but theyre we love our dogs, but theyre very good for you as well. They have benefits your Mental Health. There you go. There you go. Is what i wish i had. This is what i wish i had. This is what i wish i had. Im always giving a im always giving the pets a kiss. Yeah. Im always giving the pets a kissa yeah. Im always giving the pets a kissa lovelyi. Im always giving the pets a kissa lovely last night. A lovely last night. Actually, though, i didnt sleep at all. I had a very, very bad nights sleep. But maybe its my age now that im in my 50s. Yes. Yes. Yes. And doesnt he look great . And doesnt he look great . I cant quite get my head round it, but there you go. Its good to be around, but lying in bed, the better half on one side, the middle, side, the dog down the middle, the cat round the top. And i just thought it was about 1 00 this morning and i thought, this is little dickson family. Is nice little dickson family. Oh, the family together. All the cat purrs on the family and the cat purrs on your head. Does purr head. He does purr my head. He does purr my head. He does purr my head. He himself around my he wraps himself around my head. Its no wonder head and purrs. Its no wonder i couldnt sleep. I dont dont how you i dont i dont know how you do the dog. I know do sleep with the dog. I know hes about, ten stone . Hes about, what, ten stone . Whatever well, hes 35kg, whatever that i dont know what that is. Yeah. I dont know what that is. Yeah. I dont know what that is, its. That is, but its. Itsjust that is, but its. Its just lovely. That is, but its. Itsjust lovely. I that is, but its. Its just lovely. I just love it. Theyre just. Theyre it. And theyre just. Theyre asleep. Happy. Youre a dog would you say youre a dog person now . No. No. Oh no, im not a dog person. Im a it hasnt been won over. Im a it hasnt been won over. Im a it hasnt been won over. Im a rex person , okay . Im all im a rex person, okay . Im all for. Im all for our rex. But im not a dog person. No. Oh, really . Oh, really . Oh, really . Oh, really . Oh, weve got time to crack you yet. Oh, there you go. Oh, there you go. Worth a try. Yeah. Worth a try. Yeah. Worth a try. Yeah. Anyway, should we go to our top story . Shall we do some work . Yes, we better had, because the government is set to name Islamist Groups the government is set to name islarundermine groups the government is set to name islarundermine democracy. S the government is set to name islarundermine democracy. How that undermine democracy. How they work that out, i dont know, well try and find out later on this morning. Its because number 10 is releasing a new definition of extremism. New definition of extremism. Well, extremist groups that fall below the terrorism threshold but continue to promote violence, hatred or intolerance will be banned from working with any public body. Well of course, it follows months of anti semitic commentary by some groups following the october attack. But crucially, its not going to have any effect on existing criminal law. Well, lets get the thoughts of political commentator andy williams. Good to see you this morning. Andy. What do you make of this and how helpful is it . Well, i do think we need to tackle non violent extremism. And i think we need to look at the full suite of options to be able to do that. So in that respect, i think this is a good thing. But sort of as stephen thing. But sort of as stephen alluded to, the problem here is its complicated, its nuanced. How do you determine which groups fall into that category . And particularly when youre talking about ideology, which is a complex thing . I mean, we were talking about the pro palestine protests that have been taking place in london in the last sort of 4 or 5 months. The vast majority of people on those protests, whether you agree or disagree with them, have been peaceful and have been exercising their right to Free Expression. But we have seen some People Holding anti semitic placards shouting violent, you know, phrases and language, and we cant have that. So we do need some methodology to sort of proscribe organisations and individuals who who fit this definition. Yeah, but does that mean then that, for example, those with concerns about the palestinian situation would not have access to government ministers to discuss it . Well, i hope not. And thats where the challenge arises , because those challenge arises, because those views, views from across the spectrum on any issue do need to be represented to government ministers. They need to be heard. They deserve to be. And so that is the concern. And so that that is the concern. And thats where itll be. Interesting to hear from michael gove we need to gove later, because we need to ensure were cutting ensure that were not cutting out a section of views because it suits government ministers. It suits government ministers. Yeah, thats the i mean, its the unintended consequences as well, isnt it, with all the law of unintended consequences as they yeah, absolutely. They say. Yeah, absolutely. I think one thing and i mean, i think one thing thatis and i mean, i think one thing that is important to say is the government been criticised government has been criticised quite being a quite heavily for being a bit flat footed this kind of flat footed on this kind of failing and this is the failing to act. And this is the first time, far i can see, first time, as far as i can see, that weve seen them proactively and, of tangibly and, and kind of tangibly respond to whats going on. I would credit where credit is would say credit where credit is due of probably the only, in my view, government minister to emerge with really any credit from the last 14 years is michael gove. Every Single Department he goes to, he makes stuff happen and fair play to him for that, does this go far enough . Does it actually offer anything concrete . Because, crucially, it has no effect on criminal law whatsoever. And in terms of the policing angle of all of this who have come under heavy criticism over the past few weeks or months, it only adds another layer of complexity. Doesnt it . Well, i think in terms of the police, they have to be held accountable you know, for, police, they have to be held accenforcing you know, for, police, they have to be held accenforcing , you know, for, police, they have to be held accenforcing , the u know, for, police, they have to be held accenforcing , the law 10w, for, police, they have to be held accenforcing , the law on, for, police, they have to be held accenforcing , the law on the , for enforcing, the law on the streets. And thats, thats one for them, i wouldnt want to see things go too much further, because then you do stray into restricting peoples right to Free Expression and right to Civil Liberties. And i think if youre going to strike any balance at all, you have to on the side of allowing to the side of allowing people to say maybe we would say things that maybe we would rather hear. Rather not hear. Yeah , i mean, and well, yeah, i mean, and thats the point, isnt it . In, in a free society , you dont in a free society, you dont evolve as a society unless people can say things, even if they are distasteful, as you say, when you actually look at it, its a very fine line. It is between between someone being distasteful and someone doing something which is undermining uk democracy , as they put it. Uk democracy, as they put it. And i think the important thing is that this is applied in a fair and equitable way, because, you know, a lot of the reporting on this is around, you know, if you look at the front of the telegraph today, for example, gove to example, it says, gove to identify extremist muslim groups. Yes , that is one, groups. Well, yes, that is one, one subset of extremists that will be identified. But lets look also at at far right nationalist , for example, you nationalist, for example, you know, those are people who we see on the, the streets shouting hateful slogans, you know, sometimes behaving in a violent and aggressive manner. But do these people have be these people have to be prescribed to. Well, yes. But do yeah. Well, yes. But but do they they wouldnt have they i mean, they wouldnt have access government ministers access to government ministers anyway, access to government ministers anyyoud hope not. Youd hope not. Youd hope not. Because. Because part of this, i mean, what makes it slightly confusing . Because theyre prescribed theyre not being prescribed as terrorist therefore terrorist groups, therefore theyre not illegal in that sense. Saying, well, sense. Its just saying, well, you cant access public bodies, you cant access public bodies, you these meetings as you cant have these meetings as ministers. You cant. Well, if thats not happening anyway. Right. And this is the point. And this this is really it is an important part of our democracy that anybody in theory is able to lobby effectively, government able to put their case, in, in a, in a fair way. Case, in, in a, in a fair way. And its up to government to determine whether theyre going to listen or not, so that that is , as weve said, its a is, as weve said, its a difficult balance to strike, i hope that the government will, you know, i think the next step, as i understand it, is that in a couple of weeks, a list will be published of the organisations who have been identified as extremists. And thats going to be that will be be that that will be a controversial moment, because inevitably will 2 inevitably there will be 1 or 2 organisations on that list where people know, do they people go, you know, do they really really the really do they really fit the bill . So thats thats going to be tricky one to navigate. Bill . So thats thats going to be its cky one to navigate. Bill . So thats thats going to be its going|e to navigate. Bill . So thats thats going to be its going to o navigate. Bill . So thats thats going to be its going to beiavigate. Bill . So thats thats going to be its going to be interesting. Its going to be interesting. Andy, indeed. Andy, thanks very much indeed. If view that id if youve got a view on that id love to hear it. Vaiews gbnews. Com. Is it a case of, say , well, this is right. If of, say, well, this is right. If people are spreading hate in this way, then they need to be put on this list named and shamed, or is it going to stifle free speech . As i say, i think its such a fine line. Youve got to youve just got to be careful with it. Its a difficult balance to strike, isnt it . It really is. It really is. And like you said, its what it means down the line, doesnt it . Is it a crackdown on free speech . Some will say it is. Headline. Its a great headline. Its when look at the detail, when you look at the detail, thatis when you look at the detail, that is becomes concerned thing. Well let us know what you think. Vaiews gbnews. Com. Now at 7 10. Lets take a look at some other stories coming into the newsroom and failed Asylum Seekers will be will be paid £3,000 to move to rwanda under a new voluntary government scheme to clear the migrant backlog. The agreement with the african nafion the agreement with the african nation is designed to remove migrants who have no legal right to stay in the uk, but cannot be returned to their home country. The safety of rwanda bill, which is designed to secure the deportation flights, returns to the commons next week, downing street has said. Comments allegedly made by a tory donor about the mp, diane abbott were racist and wrong, but theyre not giving that money back. It comes as a police are understood to have been contacted over the comments by frank hester. He has now apologised and says he abhors racism. Diane abbott, who is now an independent mp, described the comments as frightening and worrying. A leading charity is reportedly revealed that fertility clinics are giving women false hope over their chances of conceiving a child after freezing their eggs, according to the sectors watchdog, 40 of clinics fail to state the likelihood of becoming pregnant following the treatment. Stats show that success rates are lower than when using fresh eggs between 20 to 30. Now, foreign state ownership of british newspapers will be outlawed following attempts by the uae to take over the telegraph newspaper. Well, the move follows months of bickering over the matter, and ministers hope it will see off a conservative rebellion over press freedom. Well, lets get the latest from our economics and Business Editor Liam Halligan. Very good morning to you, liam. As the morning to you, liam. As the government have now confirmed that they are planning to outlaw Foreign Ownership newspapers. Foreign ownership of newspapers. Pretty much, ellie, i should say at the outset, ive written a column for the telegraph for the thick end of 20 years. Crikey where did that go . And i also regularly for the also write regularly for the spectator. Now, what happened in spectator. Now, what happened in the lords yesterday is that peers were debating the ownership, Foreign Ownership ownership, the Foreign Ownership of newspapers, and theres a groundswell of opinion, not just among people in the upper house, but also right across the house of commons. Hundreds of mps have registered their concerns about the potential takeover of the telegraph and the spectator by a consortium backed by the government of the united arab emirates. Of course, a wealthy oil nation in the middle east. This has been going on for many months. It happened because the barclay brothers , their holding barclay brothers, their holding company, the family that owned the telegraph, they had over £1 billion worth of debt. The bank called in that debt, seized control of the paper and the uae, through an Investment Vehicle called redbird, fronted by an american called jeff zucker, who previously ran cnn. Zucker, who previously ran cnn. The uae took over that debt, which gave them control of the telegraph. But then the government said, hang about, we dont want you to swap that debt for actual ownership of the papen for actual ownership of the paper. So called debt for paper. A so called debt for eqtu paper. A so called debt for equity whats happened now equity swap. Whats happened now is parliament koreans have is that parliament koreans have beaten back. The government doesnt need a row. Its got enough on its plate, particularly members of particularly a lot of members of the conservative party in and outside of parliament have really expressed outrage that a foreign governments could own a newspaper. We could. We do, of course, have foreign nationals owning newspapers, Rupert Murdochs owned newspapers in this country for many years. And we already have some foreign governments owning slices of newspapers, the norwegian sovereign wealth fund, the saudi sovereign wealth fund, the saudi sovereign wealth fund, owns slices of the british media already. But the idea of the uae government basically taking over what is the biggest selling broadsheet newspaper in the united kingdom, and the spectator also very, very influential magazine that was too much for parliamentarians. And so the government has effectively said, okay, theyre not going to be able to take a majority control and actually were going to limit influence. Were going to limit influence. It may be that the uae can buy. Ten, 15, even 20 of these media assets, but all that is in the balance. Balance. I mean, is the argument basically here, liam, that they dont want Something Like the telegraph to become a mouthpiece for the uae because isnt there regulation in place now that would , in effect, stop that would, in effect, stop that happening. I mean, look, if nothing else, if it became a just a mouthpiece for a foreign government, people arent going to buy it for a kick off, are they . They . Good question stephen. And just another disclaimer. I do wear multiple hats in my media life. As you know. We should say life. As you know. We should say that, you know, a major investor in gb news, paul marshall, has also expressed interest in buying telegraph and the buying the telegraph and the spectator. And im absolutely not talking on his behalf ehhen not talking on his behalf either. Im giving you my independent professional view. Youre right. There can be regulations in place to stop newspapers doing certain things. And i should add this legislation, this amendment to the Digital Markets bill that the Digital Markets bill that the government , the Digital Markets bill that the government, highlighted it would introduce yesterday only appues would introduce yesterday only applies to newspapers and magazines. It doesnt apply to broadcast media. Quite an interesting omission. But the bafic interesting omission. But the basic concern is that even if there is regulation in place, stephen, even if there are editorial advisory boards, you know , people by the great and know, people by the great and the good of the british establishment , the good of the british establishment, men and women, true of mind and all the rest of it. What really happens behind closed doors in the media, is that proprietors generally get their way, journalists, even if there is regulation in place, they kind of self censor. And so in the end, he who pays the piper calls the tune that is the concern. And the telegraph, for instance , anyone can see who instance, anyone can see who reads the paper online, or in its physical form can see the telegraph has taken quite a robust stance when it comes to current conflict between israel and palestine. In the aftermath and palestine. In the aftermath of the atrocities of the 7th of october last year. Would the telegraph be able to do that if it was majority owned by an arab state . Im not sure. Were i the editor of the telegraph , under editor of the telegraph, under those circumstances, how would i think about these things . Id want to keep my job. Senior journalists would want to keep their job. Journalists would want to keep theirjob. So with journalists would want to keep their job. So with the best will in the world, gb news viewers and listeners, you know, were here, three journalists talking about the ownership of the media or its all very lovey, lovey, lovey, but gb news viewers and listeners will understand that the telegraph, spectator, listeners will understand that the te are raph, spectator, listeners will understand that the te are extremely pectator, listeners will understand that the te are extremely influential, these are extremely influential, news papers, media outlets. Theyll understand that even if you have regulation in place, there is danger of bias and proprietors getting what they want, the coverage that they want, the coverage that they want at a really shifting strategic time in the world. You know, uae is generally seen, rightly so, as a real ally of the uk and the us, very much western leaning on the other hand, its worth saying the uae has joined the bloc called brics, with brazil, russia, india and china at its centre. Its very much, you know, hedging its bets in the current sort of geopolitical great game. So peers have reacted to that. Mps have reacted to that. Theyve expressed anger and outrage, and the government has responded, okay, Liam Halligan really good to see you this morning. Morning. Thank you very much indeed. Thank you very much indeed. Right. Lets see what the all right. Lets see what the weathers going to do for you today. Wherever you are in the uk. Heres alex. A brighter outlook with boxt solar , the sponsors of weather solar, the sponsors of weather on gb news. Morning. Heres your latest weather for gb news from the met office. More rain to come as we go through today , but at least go through today, but at least it is going to be pretty mild before a showery day for tomorrow. Like i said though, plenty rain today. Plenty of rain around today. A band pushing its northwards band pushing its way northwards into scotland across into parts of scotland across northern ireland, and some of that rain could turn heavy even a little bit of wintry ness, some sleet snow over the some sleet or snow over the highest across more highest ground across more eastern england. Its eastern parts of england. Its actually largely actually going to be largely fine. Some decent sunshine through day, but through much of the day, but cloud and outbreaks of showery rain feeding up from the southwest brisk , southwest on some brisk, blustery winds. Like i said though, mild side though, on the mild side temperatures are well above average for the time of year for most us, though, a little bit most of us, though, a little bit chillier towards more chillier towards the north. More rain come as we go through chillier towards the north. More rainend ome as we go through chillier towards the north. More rainend 0er as we go through chillier towards the north. More rainend of the; we go through chillier towards the north. More rainend of the day, go through chillier towards the north. More rainend of the day, particularly the end of the day, particularly across parts of scotland, but it does push away as we go does start to push away as we go into there will be into tomorrow. There will be some clear skies around tonight, but also further outbreaks of showery , and some of these showery rain, and some of these could really pack a punch. There could really pack a punch. There could the occasional could be the occasional downpour. Temperatures, though not amount not dropping a huge amount because blustery winds because of the blustery winds and the generally mild theme to things. Staying in things. Many places staying in double figures overnight as we go itself. Then go through friday itself. Then a largely showery and blustery day for us. Watch out as for many of us. Watch out as some of those showers could be heavy, even thundery, heavy, possibly even thundery, particularly towards south particularly towards the south and the uk. Signs and southeast of the uk. Signs of something a little bit drier pushing in the west. But pushing in from the west. But for many it is going to be a largely showery picture. Temperatures still well above average for time year, so average for the time of year, so highs of around 16, possibly 17 celsius by that warm feeling celsius by by that warm feeling inside from boxt boiler as sponsors of weather on gb news. Thanks, alex. Now its time for our spring Great British giveaway and your chance to win wherever you put the remote. There you go, a win i gadgets, there you go, a win gadgets, a shopping spree and £12,345 in spnng shopping spree and £12,345 in spring cash boost. Youve got to be in it to win it. And heres how you could be the next big winner once be a winner. Youve won £18,000. Youve won £18,000. 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Now as britons , are we afraid now as britons, are we afraid to talk about death . Well, to talk about death . Well, apparently we are going to be talking about that in just a couple of minutes. So if youre frightened of talking about death make cup of tea. Death, go make a cup of tea. But keep us all. 725. Morning to you. Now the parliament and Health Ombudsman has released revealed that attitudes that. Sorry, sorry able to me went very well. But anyway, the ombudsman has revealed that attitudes towards death amongst britons needs to change for an important reason, actually, to improve end of life care. Research has shown that brits are afraid to discuss death, as it often conjures up feelings of anxiety and sadness. Anxiety and sadness. This need to get on with it. Were all going to die anyway. Were all going to die anyway. This all comes as the public has become increasingly interested in true crime podcasts. Now you say, whats the connection there . Well, we dont like to talk about death, but we like to watch. It is basically a morbid fascination with it. Perhaps so today were asking, are britons too scared to talk about death . Well, to talk about this, we are joined by psychotherapist Lucy Beresford and ryan mark parsons, the former apprentice star. Very good to see you both this morning. And, lucy, lets start morning. And, lucy, lets start with you. Do you think as britons, we are good at talking about death . Weve become less good at it . Weve become less good at it . And thats because over the last hundred years weve become more remote from it. There was a time when you would have had much greater exposure to death in your immediate circle. If you had loads of children, many of them would have died in infancy, and many people died very early. And so you went to many funerals, whereas nowadays you could be in your 40s and not having been to a funeral of someone very close to you. So someone very close to you. So theres that anxiety around it. It feels were from more detached, but at the same time there is this great sense that death will happen at some point. We just dont know when. And so we talk about that as death anxiety. We know its happening. Its somewhere parked in the back our brain. But we dont back of our brain. But we dont really want to access it because it feels scary. And the it feels too scary. And the podcasts and true crime podcasts and the true crime things we might watch or things that we might watch or the novels that to be the the novels that seem to be the best which are usually best sellers, which are usually about crime or detective work, it enables us to have access to death without actually experiencing ourselves. Experiencing ourselves. Yeah. Whats the sort of youngen yeah. Whats the sort of younger, younger perspective on this, ryan . And in the sense that the young always think theyre going to live forever, you know, its that sort of thing. But i mean, know, thing. But i mean, you know, youve youve deal youve got youve got to deal with it when youre young with it even when youre young havent you. And deal with wills and that. These things and all that. Get these things in place. Guess e guess so. E guess so. I e guess so. I mean, yeah, i guess so. I mean, i approach it from z point approach it from a gen z point of im 23. A lot of my of view. Im 23. A lot of my peers speak about death quite candidly. I find older people perhaps millennials, boomers there seems to be this sensitivity and this soppiness that i think we have in this nafion that i think we have in this nation where we cant talk about hard hitting subjects like death. I mean, there was yougov polling last year that sampled around 30,000 people and 45 of those that responded said that they havent even spoken about funerals to, family members. 72 of those that were polled havent even made a will. So i think as a nation, theres many of us that just dont want to talk about death as a subject. Maybe thats because we havent legalised youth euthanasia in countries like luxembourg and spain and portugal. Its legal to go through that route. We havent got that in the uk at the moment, so i think theres lots of things that are perhaps contributing to this taboo and the fact that we cant talk about things like death, which i dont seem understand because dont seem to understand because people are very honest dont seem to understand because pe0|frank are very honest dont seem to understand because pe0|frank aboutare very honest dont seem to understand because pe0|frank about its very honest dont seem to understand because pe0|frank about it. Very honest dont seem to understand because pe0|frank about it. Lucy, ionest dont seem to understand because pe0|frank about it. Lucy, what and frank about it. Lucy, what do you make of it. Do you think the likes of Dame Esther Rantzen are talking about end of life care . Do you think that is helping british helping the british consciousness talking about death . She is doing a death . I think she is doing a brilliant job on that particular topic because i think its something that were going to need talk about. Something that were going to neethe talk about. Something that were going to neethe olderabout. Something that were going to nee the older we jt. Something that were going to neethe older we get as the older we get as a population. I think the other problem that what weve done problem is that what weve done in last couple in the last couple of generations that have generations is that we have parked elderly into care parked elderly people into care homes, dont have that homes, so we dont have that sense of multi generational households having exposure to the frailties of old age. We actually dont want we want to airbrush it out and put these people somewhere where we almost cant see them. And i think there needs to be a radical shift in terms of how we talk about death, how we talk about end life care, and how we end of life care, and how we talk about age in general, talk about old age in general, because majority people because the majority of people nowadays particularly gen z, nowadays are particularly gen z, they could be living to 110. And are we . But but at the same time, were less religious. We dont necessarily have the faith structure in place that might give us succour or comfort as we get older. So how are we going get older. So how are we going to deal with that . Almost from a spiritual point of view . How are we going to deal with that in a way that says, im fully embracing prepared embracing this, im prepared for it. Retreats the it. Perhaps i go on retreats the older i get. I want to have an active elderly life as opposed to being parked somewhere to just being parked somewhere in home and ignored in a nursing home and ignored for the last 30 years of my life. Does the situation get worse then . But the fact that we seem to be increasingly moving towards a society not just in the uk, but actually in lots of parts of the west where youth is beautiful and all encompassing. Its all about being young and if youre not young, trying to look young. Twas ever thus, though, that that historically, if you look at beauty records over the last 5000 theyre 5000 years, what theyre actually is youth, actually focusing on is youth, which equals fertility. What you want particularly if you as a species, live only until youre about 40. You want to know if you cant really speak very well because you havent developed language, want to know language, you want to know immediately. Fertile immediately. Is someone fertile enough to give you children and to perpetuate the species youve got wrinkles, youve got a stooped you look old stooped back. You dont look old enough children or enough to father children or carry children. Shorthand carry children. Its a shorthand way of, of a species to have evolved to communicate fitness and health. So weve equated that subsequently to mean that beauty somehow is better or youth is better. But obviously i am living proof that you can do things slightly differently. You dont necessarily need to worry about wrinkles to still be amazing. Quite , quite. Quite, quite. Quite, quite. Really interested to hear what you think about ageist attitudes, because this report also found that it says that we need to Start Talking about death more and talking about ageing more, because it found that there are ageist attitudes even own nhs. Even within our own nhs. Well, yes. I mean, from a Young Persons point of view, i feel like age is something that we i dont know, there seems to be a lack of respect towards the elderly. Im finding increasingly amongst people my age , and perhaps thats because age, and perhaps thats because of whats peddled in the media. And we look at certain people within the media that are slightly older. I think theres a lot of things that might be contributing towards that attitudes. As you were saying in the nhs, theres an ageist issue there. Im not exactly sure where that might be coming from, but certainly from my generation and their point of view. On the whole, id say thats something that should that mentality should be shifted. Do we need to be looking after the older people in our Society Better . Should we give them more respect . Them more respect . Well, i think they do deserve more respect. Obviously i dont think that were actively disrespecting them. Ive always disrespecting them. Ive always respected the elderly. I think a lot of my friends respect the elderly. I dont i dont notice a massive age issue amongst people in gen z. Well, at time i just want i just want to know what do you class as elderly as a 23 year old, i think above 30. Yeah, thats a perfect answer. Its the perfect answer. How about how about so nearly me then . Nearly you . Nearly you . Yeah. Would you class as i dont know how old you are, but would you, would you class as elderly. Now youre probably would over 100. Would be over 100. That i really seem to given that i really seem to know people who are know a lot of people who are still very vibrant and alert in their 90s. So lets lets get over threshold over 100. Over that threshold over 100. Yeah, really, i have to say, theres a lady i go to theres a lady that i go to church with, rosemary, and she she a 90th not very long she had a 90th not very long ago. And honestly, she fit as a fiddle , sharp as a tack. Always fiddle, sharp as a tack. Always beautifully turned you beautifully turned out. You wouldnt. Oh, and you just wouldnt think. Oh, and you just think, well, if thats 90, bring it on. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. It on. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Ryan mark parsons, Lucy Beresford, good to see you both this morning. Beresford, good to see you both this morning. Yes, very much this morning. Yes, very much indeed. Very much indeed. Do let us know what you think about that. Are scared to talk about are we too scared to talk about death . Are we too scared to talk about deawe shouldnt. All got we shouldnt. Weve all got to with it at some point, to deal with it at some point, havent in book havent we . In the book of proverbs, know, it says. Proverbs, as you know, it says. Go. I cling to there we go. No, i cling to this one because it says where grey crown. Grey hairs like a crown. Oh, thats a good one, which is obviously, obviously my crowns bigger week crowns getting bigger week in, week its true. Week out. Its true. Not at all, not at all. Not at all, not at all. Oh, come on, i cant deny it. Oh, come on, i cant deny it. Like a bad. Like a bad. Its a good peppering what they it. They call it. Like ive been emulsion looks like ive been emulsion in the all right. Paul in the ceiling. All right. Paul coyte going all the coyte is going to have all the support you in just support for you in just a minute. So dont go anywhere. Good morning. Welcome back. The time is 737. Its time to go through all of the latest sports news now with paul coyte. I cant go through all of it. I cant go through all of it. You cant you. You cant you. Ill go through as much as i can. Youve got time to kill. Youve got time to kill. Okay . Right. Should we start with town . Luton with luton town . Luton town . I dont know whether this as dont know whether to do this as a for bournemouth or a a positive for bournemouth or a negative for how should negative for luton. How should we play it . I just its heartbreak i just think its heartbreak for think its negative for luton. I think its negative for luton. I think its negative for i just think its so for luton. I just think its so the that must have the fans watching that must have just i mean they had just been well i mean they had a good 45 minutes. You got to look on the bright side. So luton then theyre side. So luton then theyre playing bournemouth away at bournemouth yesterday. You know playing bournemouth away at b was3mouth yesterday. You know playing bournemouth away at b was postponed terday. You know playing bournemouth away at b was postponed because ou know playing bournemouth away at b was postponed because ou tom it was postponed because of tom lockyer. If you remember lockyer. Now if you remember back tom lockyer back in december tom lockyer whos captain in whos the luton captain in cardiac arrest on the pitch. They the game. So this they postponed the game. So this is being replayed because of that. And you know its not the sort of thing i want to make a joke about. But if youve got a bad heart, this was really not the game you want to be watching. A luton fan, watching. If youre a luton fan, starts terrific at starts off terrific away at bournemouth three nil at half bournemouth three nil up at half time. Fans are time. The luton fans are singing. Were going to be staying up. Its going to be a fantastic evening. Everythings fantastic evening. Everythings going and then going great. And then bournemouth and they bournemouth came out and they they were pretty unhappy. So then turned things around. They then turned things around. They score pretty soon. Then they score pretty soon. Then they score again. Then they score again and the tide begins to turn its all about turn and its all about momentum. All about momentum. Thats exactly it. Bournemouth thats exactly it. Bournemouth then final one in the 82nd minute end up winning four three. Wow. And its only ever happened twice before in the premier league that anybody has been at half time been three nil up at half time and up the game. That and end up losing the game. That must have been one hell of a pep talk. Know the in the in talk. I know in the in the in the intermission. In the intermission , what you call it intermission, what you call it after after half time. You know after after half time. You know what i was i went to the theatre on saturday and im going, yeah, im looking forward to having an ice cream at half time. And they reacted same way me as i reacted the same way to me as i did as you called it, an intermission. If i youre a man of if i ruined youre a man of the , my dear boy. The theatre, my dear boy. Okay. Thats okay. Thats okay. Really. No, he almost no, really. No, he almost gets away with it, doesnt he . All the sports knowledge. You ask questions. Ask all the right questions. And then happened the intermission. It all feels very yes. And it all feels very good. Yes. Okay. We got you , mister. But okay. We got you, mister. But anyway, youre right, though. What was said at half time, it must have been the most unbelievable pep talk, because they come that way. And they did come out that way. And also way. Then you also the other way. Then you know what . What do you say to luton . Listen, fellas, keep more of same. More of same. Of the same. More of the same. But then the first one goes but then once the first one goes in, capitulated and it was in, they capitulated and it was all a bit of a disaster. And so then theyve got huge game at then theyve got a huge game at then theyve got a huge game at the they play the weekend. They play nottingham so thats who Nottingham Forest. So thats who theyre with relegation. Against with relegation. Right. So it was it was so it was it was a game. It was a game and a half. It was a ding dong a ding dong. Dong ding a ding dong. Dong. It was ding dong. It was ding dong. Believe have now i believe we have a minute left. Can we get on to golf. Yeah. Lets get on to the lets get to the golf sawgrass tpc is name of the course. Tpc is the name of the course. Its players championship. I its the players championship. I knew going to say that knew you were going to say that it was tpc. Oh , its tpc. Oh, its tpc. Oh, its tpc. I thought it was tbc, but its they are naming it. Its not. They are naming it. A tcp. See. I think its a tcp. See. I think its a tcp. See. Theres disinfectant , yeah, theres disinfectant, but exactly. Its, the golf is the but its, the golf is the fifth. They call it the unofficial fifth major, although its not going to be so great because theres a lot of players that arent in it because of going to play it live. But have a look at this. Anyway, this is, this actually happened there dunng this actually happened there during all the warm i think this actually happened there durcan all the warm i think this actually happened there durcan showe warm i think this actually happened there durcan showe little i think this actually happened there durcan showe little signature1k we can show a little signature here there can we can here now that there can we can we see Rickie Fowler, 2015 champion i havent got a paper i didnt want to sign your autograph. What shall i do . Ill sign your head. There we are. Oh well fair enough. Oh well fair enough. So some of us that can actually probably get very best wishes from Rickie Fowler, 2015 sawgrass champion. I could probably go on there i know but but yeah so hes going around signing foreheads. Oh those kids will be absolutely delighted with that. Yeah i know but if you look in the mirror its like backwards. Yeah. Yeah. Should be the i hope should that be the i hope its permanent marker thatll be on imagine going on for. Can you imagine going into very on for. Can you imagine going into with very on for. Can you imagine going into with that. Very on for. Can you imagine going into with that. Got happy with that. Why you got Rickie Fowler on your Rickie Fowler written on your head. Quhe Rickie Fowler written on your head. Quite its quite cool. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Those poor parents would be scrubbing their childrens heads. I w w w. I know the day you imagine. Yeah. I know some people yeah. And i know some people where autographs on where theyve had autographs on various parts of their body by famous sports people that have then tattooed afterwards. Then had it tattooed afterwards. Oh, really . So then its actually the tattoo. Does that work same way . Dont know work the same way . I dont know whether really the same, whether its really the same, because theyve because although theyve actually if its actually done it, if its tattooed, not really tattooed, then its not really officially tattooed, then its not really offi no,. Y tattooed, then its not really offi no, no, think would no, no, i think that would work. That as an work. That counts as an autograph so, yeah. Autograph i think so, yeah. Maybe not on your forehead though. No, no probably not. Though. No, probablybly not. Though. No, probably not1ot. Though. No, probably not at. Though. No, probably not a good idea on paul. Has , on children, paul. It has, hasnt it. Been marvellous. Its been marvellous. Its been marvellous. Time for very long intermission. Yes it is, yes. Time for an intermission and well see you a little later on, though. Little bit later on, though. Dont go anywhere. Little bit later on, though. Okay. Go anywhere. Okay. Okay. Or something. Or something. Were going to still to come. Were going to tell about billionaire who tell you about a billionaire who plans to remake the titanic with added special details. Well tell you more. Hows that gonna go . Yeah. Yeah. Dont know, like a lead balloon. 745. Good morning to you. Its time to see whats in the papers this morning with former government adviser to michael gove. Charlie rowley. The gove. Charlie rowley. And the writer commentator candice writer and commentator Candice Holdsworth. Good morning holdsworth. Good morning to you both. Before we both. Good morning. Before we actually dive into the papers, one of the key stories is about thats doing the rounds today is about defence budget. And about the defence budget. And the defence secretary wants to see that increased to 3. So its a significant boost up. It has been trailing behind for a long time. So before we talk about that, this is what he had to say to gb news yesterday. Well look i think its undeniably a more dangerous world. Weve got in world. Weve got a war in europe. Weve got a conflict in the middle east. Youve seen the u. K. Involved in the middle east with with the houthis. So i think important that we up think its important that we up our spending. We are committed to 2. 5. I note that labour say theyre committed to the 2 figure thats already a £7 billion cut from where were up to now , so they are not the to now, so they are not the answer. And as you say , ive answer. And as you say, ive rightly, i think, called for more money. I should just say that this budget actually has added 1. 8 in real terms to our defence budgets. Defence budgets. And obviously putin has been gaining ground in ukraine. How much of a threat currently is russia . And could you see the uk russia . And could you see the uk and other nato countries being forced into some kind of Armed Conflict . So i was over in ukraine last week. I met president zelenskyy. When i was there, i said, this is a wake up call for the world. Youve got some russian advances, as you say, theyre not in truth , but not dramatic. In truth, but nonetheless theyre consistent at the moment. It is very important and will cost us a lot less money if we understand that defeating russia and putin in ukraine is a lot less expensive than him moving further to the west, either to the rest of ukraine or worse still, to places like poland. So weve recently announced the purchase of 14 new Chinook Helicopters. Why do we need them helicopters. Why do we need them there . Obviously we know that theyve got extra features that theyve got extra features that the previous fleet did not have. So what makes them different . What makes them better . Well, first of all, weve got a very good deal on them. I should say. Weve saved about £300 million on these and also got some other reforms in the purchasing system, which will save a lot of money in the future. So these have now become much better value. These 14 are extended chinook extended range Chinook Helicopters. Most helicopters. Theyre the most capable helicopters capable heavy lift helicopters in the world. This particular version of it will enable to us do some very important work, not all of which im afraid i can talk about publicly. But it is important that we carry on modernising our armed forces. Just going, looking in america now, obviously, president ial election is underway and donald trump is the republican presumptive nominee for that. Its possible he could be in the white house by 2025. And weve just heard from hunganan and weve just heard from hungarian Prime Minister viktor orban. He met donald trump. He said that mr trump would not fund ukraine if he became president of the united states. Does that concern you . What does that concern you . What message would you send to donald trump . Well , i trump . Well, i think its actually really very straightforward. Theres one thing that donald trump definitely doesnt want to see its other leaders looking at the west coming to the conclusion, and america that it wont step up when it comes to it. And perhaps in 2 or 3 years, youll get sort of bored and disaffected and leave that battle behind. And i think when it comes to things that trump himself really cares himself says, he really cares about being an obvious about taiwan being an obvious example , clearest single example, the clearest single message who message to send to anyone who thought that force was the way to reunify would to be abandon ukraine. We do currently have a real world crisis in the red sea. People will understandably , people will understandably, perhaps, question why we havent seen an Aircraft Carrier there to conduct strikes on the houthis, rather than flying typhoons on 3000 mile bombing round trips from cyprus. What would you say to them if ineeded what would you say to them if i needed the Aircraft Carrier . There i would have sent it there. There was actually no logistical advantage in doing that, and the reality of the situation is that even when america went and bombed the iran augned america went and bombed the iran aligned militias, the other week in syria and iraq, you know, where they flew those from, not from the Aircraft Carrier, which they did actually have in the red sea, but all the way from the united states, which is a heck of a lot further than flying the typhoons from its base those targets. Base to those targets. You go. Charlie well, there you go. Charlie rowley and Candice Holdsworth are here. Candace, what do you make of that . I mean, it strikes me he wouldnt be saying this out loud unless he was on a promise. Yes it were. Yes it were. Yes. And i think look, i mean, you know, i think a lot of people are surprised when they see, you know, how low in see, you know, how low down in comparison to things. Comparison to other things. Defence mean, defence spending is. I mean, a lot people commented lately lot of people commented lately on just how much the National Debtis on just how much the National Debt is taking up in of debt is taking up in terms of national expenditure. Yet we live in very unstable world live in a very unstable world right now, and you would think that they would prioritise things defence. Of course, things like defence. Of course, you what, will money you know what, will that money go know, what will the go on . You know, what will the conflicts the future look conflicts of the future look like. And sort of like. You know, and we sort of think these in think about these things in terms of, you know, equipment and but i think now, and armoury. But i think now, you know, with technology, i mean, well see lot more in mean, well see a lot more in terms deception and fakery terms of deception and fakery and will be spent and more will have to be spent on intelligence. Yeah. Will have to be and they will have to be investment Intelligence Investment in intelligence and technology, in this technology, wont they, in this modern technology, wont they, in this mo definitely. And, grant shapps definitely. And, grant shapps has always been clear were has always been clear that were living in a more dangerous world. Weve moved to a more pre war footing now where you see are happening, see things that are happening, obviously youre obviously in gaza, what youre seeing red the seeing in the red sea with the houthis attacking, those vessels, trading in vessels, those ships, trading in that particular part of the world, obviously the war in world, and obviously the war in ukraine. So we are in a more Dangerous Society and with increasing threats, therefore, there is an argument for increased funding. All right. Do you know what. All right. Do you know what. Because were tight for because were a bit tight for time. Want to change tack time. I want to change tack entirely something entirely this morning. Something that talking about that you might be talking about down the boozer tonight. Should you go. And theyre going to rebuild the titanic. Candace according of the star. Yes. So this is a story on the front page of the daily star, Australian Mining star, an Australian Mining magnate, billionaire called magnate, a billionaire called clive a dream to clive palmer has a dream to recreate the titanic. He wants to do the whole thing. He wants to do the whole thing. He wants to do the swimming, the Swimming Pool to do the swimming, the Swimming Pool, the ballroom. He wants the turkish staircase, turkish baths, great staircase, all i just for me, all of that. I just for me, i always im always struck by how much billionaires become fascinated by the titanic. It fascinated by the titanic. It almost tempts their hubris a little bit. I mean , look at the little bit. I mean, look at the titanic about, i dont know, look at the titan submersible. Look at the titan submersible. Yeah, yeah. You know, its almost like, you know, it was a huge risk and it was a big dream and it all went wrong. You know, i people who like to i think people who like to take big risks possibly big big risks and possibly have big egos look at that and think, it wouldnt happen to me. I could egos look at that and think, it woulthe happen to me. I could egos look at that and think, it woulthe hap andto me. I could egos look at that and think, it woulthe hap and it me. I could egos look at that and think, it woulthe hap and it would could egos look at that and think, it woulthe hap and it would all. D take the risk and it would all work yeah. Work out. Yeah yeah. Do you charlie . What do you think, charlie . What do you think, charlie . Well, its thrill seeker, well, its a thrill seeker, isnt i suppose, and mean, isnt it . I suppose, and i mean, i mean, the didnt last i mean, the titanic didnt last all that long, but, you know, if it comes well just. Well it comes back, well just. Well have to wait and see. But the one you imagine, it would be so popular. It would . Oh, yeah. Oh, i wouldnt step foot near it. Why . Why would you . It. Yeah. Why . Why would you . Well , if it. Yeah. Why . Why would you . Well, if youre, intrigued by the history of it all, and obviously its, you know, its got lots of attachment to it. Therell be film buffs out there wanting to go and, you know, stand at the front deck, you know, recreating that brilliant pose and pose with Leonardo Dicaprio and kate winslet. Yeah, you know. Kate winslet. Yeah, you know. Oh, id go. Proposals will take place. Would you . Oh, yeah. Place. Would you . Oh, yeah. Go out in a heartbeat. Go out in a heartbeat. You couldnt pay me. Oh, you couldnt pay me. Oh, you couldnt pay me. What about charlie . What about you, charlie . Would yourself on would you find yourself on a titanic remake . Titanic remake . Oh, well, if somebody was going sing to me that going to sing to me that my heart on it propose heart will go on it or propose to the top deck, youd be to me on the top deck, youd be the straight there, wouldnt you . Id be, you know. Id be, you know. Yes. I mean, i wouldnt try and stop me. The point is, its i mean, the point is, its not going have the flaws that not going to have the flaws that it no, arent going to be it had. No, arent going to be obviously lifeboats. Well, i mean, love to see well, i mean, id love to see what actually looks like, what this actually looks like, you i mean, he he you know, i mean, he said he wants to it. I mean, will it wants to do it. I mean, will it actually be as tasteful and beautiful edwardian beautiful as the edwardian titanic or it be titanic was . Or could it be something tacky and something really tacky and really just. Oh, no. Derivative. Beautiful. Really just. Oh, no. Derivative. Beautbut, lets hope theres wow. But, lets hope theres lifeboats and. Yes. Lifeboats and. No. Yes. Its all it was all to well, its all it was all to do with that. The system were all doing what it was actually because i went to the Titanic Museum in belfast when i was there so there last year, there were so many wrong. Many things that went wrong. Unbelievable. Even it was unbelievable. Even down wasnt set of down to there wasnt a set of binoculars in the lookout spot, whatever you call that. But there was a fire on board before it even was a fire on board before it even set off. Cursed the so it was cursed from the very beginning . Do you see more interested in it now . Oh, shoot. Im. Im. Im. Im interested. Wouldnt be im interested. I wouldnt be on it. Be on it. M on it. Be on it. W on it. Be on it. Do a breakfast be on it. You do a Breakfast Show, wouldnt you . The ground. You firmly on the ground. You could do. Could Breakfast Show could do. The uld Breakfast Show could do. The from Breakfast Show could do. The from the Breakfast Show could do. The from the ballroom show could do. The from the ballroom or ow from the from the ballroom or whatever can. Whatever you can. On ill be on the ill be on the ill be on the shore waving at you. Oh, yeah, id do it. Oh, yeah, id do it. Would. I know you would. I know you would. Candice sorry, short charlie. Candice sorry, short but well see you in but sweet. But well see you in the next hour. Thanks very much indeed. Lets have a at the lets have a look at the weather now with alex. Feeling inside from that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers , sponsors of boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Weather on. Gb news. This morning. Heres your latest weather for gb news from the met office. More rain to come as we go through today, but at least it is going to be pretty mild before a showery day for tomorrow. Like i said though, of around though, plenty of rain around today. Band its way today. A band pushing its way northwards parts of northwards into parts of scotland across northern ireland, and some of that rain could heavy a little could turn heavy even a little bit of wintry some sleet or bit of wintry mix, some sleet or snow the highest ground snow over the highest ground across more eastern parts of england. Actually going to england. Its actually going to be. Some decent be largely fine. Some decent sunshine through much of the day, and outbreaks of day, but cloud and outbreaks of showery feeding up from the showery rain feeding up from the southwest brisk, southwest on some brisk, blustery winds. Like i said though, on the side though, on the mild side temperatures are well above average time of year for average for the time of year for most though, little bit most of us, though, a little bit chillier towards the north. More rain we go through rain to come as we go through the particularly the end of the day, particularly across but it across parts of scotland. But it does to push away as go does start to push away as we go into tomorrow. There will be some skies around tonight, some clear skies around tonight, but further of but also further outbreaks of showery rain , and some of these showery rain, and some of these could really pack punch. There could really pack a punch. There could really pack a punch. There could occasional could be the occasional downpour. Though downpour. Temperatures, though not amount not dropping a huge amount because the blustery winds because of the blustery winds and the generally mild to and the generally mild theme to things. Places staying in things. Many places staying in double figures overnight as we go friday itself , then go through friday itself, then a largely showery and blustery day for many of us. Watch out as some of those showers could be heavy, thundery, heavy, possibly even thundery, particularly towards south particularly towards the south and the signs and southeast of the uk. Signs of something a little bit drier pushing from west. But pushing in from the west. But for many it is going to be a largely showery picture. Temperatures still well above average for the time of year, so highs of around possibly 17 highs of around 16, possibly 17 celsius by a brighter outlook celsius by by a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on that incite hatred. As number 10 releases a new definition of extremism, its all being put together by michael gove. Well talk to him later in the programme. Programme. In an exclusive interview with gb news, grant shapps calls on the government to spend 3 of gdp on defence during dangerous times. Times. Well, look, i think its undeniably a more dangerous world. Weve got a war in europe, weve got a conflict in the middle east. Youve seen, the middle east. Youve seen, the uk, involved in the middle east with the houthis. So east with the houthis. So i think its important that we, we up our spending at Prince William and harry, both set to honour their mother, diana, at an event today , but they wont an event today, but they wont be seen together. Meanwhile , the princess of meanwhile, the princess of wales is crowned britains favourite royal. But the survey was conducted before the mothers day photo saga. Were mothers day photo saga. Were asking has that changed things . Asking has that changed things . Indeed, several surveys have come out, but of course will that change things . Following this photograph and the lack of trust with some people with the royal family . More detail shortly. Shortly. Also, were asking today, once a cheat , always a cheat. Once a cheat, always a cheat. Well, stats suggest infidelity is on the rise. So can a leopard really change its spots and the sport . Bournemouth stage one of the greatest premier league comebacks of all time. Luton suffer one of the Worst Premier League capitulations. And yes, its in the same game, plenty of british teams in european action tonight about tonight and well talk about seven surfing morning whilst there will be some fine weather across eastern parts today elsewhere its going to be a wetter story and then tomorrows looking showery. Looking showery. Ill have the details shortly. Morning to you. Im Stephen Dixon and im Ellie Costello and this is breakfast on gb news. News. Loads of you are getting in touch on the royal issue. Well, namely the princess of wales actually , ulez says i wales actually, ulez says i still love the princess of wales even after the photo chaos. She does a great job for the royals and you can see she is sincere. Yes, robert says, please stop talking about kate as if she killed a cat. Shes human. She photoshopped her family. So what people that like to moan will always moan. Yeah, yeah , graham says. Yeah, yeah, graham says. I dont understand what all the fuss was about. And dont know anyone who does. Having said that, please stop referring to it as a scandal. Its not. Who cares . I agree with you graham. Yeah, actually, it was always my reaction to this. So she photoshopped a picture to celebrate mothers day. Who doesnt . Photo shop something . Now, every instagram picture out there has got some filter on it or everything or all of yours are filtered, arent they . Yeah, ive got a filter on everything. Everyone knows that. Yeah, thats why i look so young on her instagram pictures. Its great, andrew has made a comment about prince harry and Prince William , saying, i wish Prince William, saying, i wish somebody would bang their two heads together. They are both my princes and i love them both. What would their dear mother and her late majesty think . Thats quite a nice comment, isnt it . Weve also been talking about death. Yes and because brits have a of talking about have a fear of talking about death. We thought wed talk death. So we thought wed talk about it today. Mark says im a christian and death for me is not the end. So i have no fear. Im afraid people wont talk about it because they have no hope. Death is only the end for our bodies, but not our souls. I think faith really does help when youre thinking about death. My grandparents are very, death. My grandparents are very, very strict catholic, and theyve just got no fear about death at all because they honestly believe theyre going to a better place and they live on. Its quite a nice way of to think about it, richard says. Have of dying at i have no fear of dying at all, theres one sure all, because theres one sure thing life and is youre thing in life and that is youre going to die, he says , theres going to die, he says, theres nothing to fear about it. You wont know anything, you wont hear wont hear anything, you wont see anything, feel anything. I hope i hope its youre dead. Oh, you just said youre just dead. There you go. So thats. Thanks for that, richard. Thats a lack of faith for you. Yes, but but whichever. Whichever way you feel about whether youve got a faith or not. Thats it. We all have to deal with it. Its not a pleasant thought. Pleasant thought. No, i dont like thinking about it. It makes sad. About it. It makes me sad. But you have to deal with it. And what have to do is plan and what you have to do is plan for i feel like a lot more i feel like youre a lot more practical and im a more emotional. So youve got all the. So youve got all the. Ive got all the wills in place and all that sort of thing. Power of attorney and all. Its all got to because all. Its all got to be because its got be done. Its got to be done. Are you leaving it to me and rex, to me . No, no, sorry. No, no, sorry. You dont get a penny at the moment, darling. I could change my. Oh, well, theres always time, and there was a lovely comment says comment here from kelly who says im a care home. And im a carer in a care home. And id love to point out that our elderly, elderly are not dumped and forgotten about old age. And forgotten about in old age. They given great care, they are given great care, company, and lots of company, compassion and lots of joy company, compassion and lots of joy and laughter in the end of lifes a lovely comment, oh, thats a lovely comment, kelly, but think kelly, and actually, but i think thats because we do thats important because we do refer them. We do have this refer to them. We do have this sort turm now we just talk sort of turm now we just talk about people dumped in about people being dumped in care i think thats care homes, and i think thats unfair. My two grandmothers were in the of in care homes towards the end of their was a their lives, and it was a wonderful place. They were in the one, actually. Not at the same one, actually. Not at the same one, actually. Not at the same one, actually. Not at the same time, its one it the same time, but its one it was a wonderful place. Yeah. Very well after. Very well looked after. To hear from and how lovely to hear from somebody there somebody who works there and truly job and loves truly loves theirjob and loves older people as well. Thats so lovely. On you. Lovely. Good on you. Thanks, kelly. Yeah. All right, lets on to our main right, lets move on to our main news this morning. The government to name government is set to name islamist and far right groups that well islamist and far right groups tha and well islamist and far right groups tha and find well islamist and far right groups tha and find out well islamist and far right groups tha and find out later well islamist and far right groups tha and find out later how well try and find out later how theyre to determine that. Theyre going to determine that. It 10 releases a new it says number 10 releases a new definition extremism, yes. Definition of extremism, yes. Groups fall extremist groups that fall below terrorism threshold below the terrorism threshold but continued to promote violence, hatred intolerance violence, hatred or intolerance will be banned from working with any public body. Well it follows months of anti semitic commentary by some groups following the 7th of october attacks. But crucially , its not going but crucially, its not going to have any effect on existing criminal law. Well, lets get the thoughts of our political correspondent, katherine forster. Very good morning to you, catherine. I mean, there has been criticism that the government has been too slow to react to all of this, but still, it doesnt offer anything particularly concrete, does it . This plan . Does it . This plan . No, thats exactly right, ellie. And good morning, ellie and stephen. The government are very, very keen to be seen to be acting on extremism, extremism following, of course , the following, of course, the horrific attacks on october the 7th, the ongoing war in gaza and the many, many , protests around the many, many, protests around the many, many, protests around the country and the huge rise in the country and the huge rise in the numbers of anti semitic and anti muslim incidents that weve seen up and down the country over the last month. So i think part of this is about being seen keen to act. But no, it doesnt affect , anything legally because affect, anything legally because this is about, cracking down on groups that are not actually breaking the law. So its below the bar at which something becomes criminal. But its what the government deems to be unacceptable. So this new unacceptable. So this new definition of extremism that theyve put out today, they think is tougher than the one it replaces. And it talks about extremism as being the promotion or advancement of an ideology based on violence, hatred or intolerance. Yes. Now the intolerance. Yes. Now the government is going to publish a list of groups which it regards as extremist in the coming weeks that will be agreed between michael gove, who is, of course, the communities secretary. Thats why hes leading on this. And James Cleverly , the home and James Cleverly, the home secretary. Its likely that we might hear some of those groups named in the house of commons today under parliamentary privilege. So lets see. But i think there is a lot of concern because of course, how do you judge, if no laws have been broken on what extremism is . And also, i think , real concerns by also, i think, real concerns by also, i think, real concerns by a number of people that it might affect free speech, for example, criticism coming, not just, from other parties, but from within the conservative party, too. People like miriam cates, who is one of the new conservatives, one of the new conservatives, one of the new conservatives, one of these tory families as they think of them and really, really worried that this might ultimately mean that peoples free speech is limited for example, women who feel that theres a speak out about that because how do you define what intolerance is . So the government attempting to do something, theyre going to come out with more measures to tackle extremism over the coming weeks. But i think theres quite a lot of questions being raised with this. And we dont know in practice exactly how it will all work. Okay, catherine, for now, thank you. Well, sticking with thank you. Well, sticking with politics, the defence secretary, grant shapps , has called on the grant shapps, has called on the government to spend 3 of gdp on defence in what is described as a more dangerous world. Yes, an exclusive gb news interview. He also touched upon donald trump. Houthi rebels and the Chinook Helicopters whilst on a visit to poland. Lets have a listen. Lets have a listen. Well, look, i think its undeniable. A more dangerous undeniable. A more dangerous world. Weve got a war in europe, weve got a conflict in the middle east. Youve seen, the middle east. Youve seen, the uk, involved in the middle east with, with the houthis. So i think its important that we, we up our spending. We are committed to 2. 5. I note that labour say theyre committed to the 2 figure. Thats already a £7 billion cut from where were up to now , so they are not the up to now, so they are not the answer. And as you say , ive answer. And as you say, ive rightly, i think, called for more money. I should just say that this budget actually has added 1. 8 in real terms to our defence budgets. Defence budgets. And obviously putin has been gaining ground in ukraine. How much of a threat currently is russia and could you see the uk and other nato countries being forced into some kind of Armed Conflict . So i was over in, ukraine last week. I met president zelenskyy. When i was there, i said, this is a wake up call for the world. Youve got some russian advances, as you say. Theyre not dramatic. In truth , theyre not dramatic. In truth, but nonetheless, theyre consistent at the moment. It is very important and will cost us a lot less money if we understand that defeating russia and putin in, in ukraine is a lot less expensive than him moving further to the west, either to the rest of ukraine or worse still, to places like poland. So weve recently announced the purchase of saved about 300 million, and, also got some other reforms in the purchasing system, which will save a lot of money in the future. So these have now become much better value. These 14 are extended range, Chinook Helicopters. Theyre the most capable heavy lift helicopters in the world, this particular version of it will enable us to do some very important work. Not all of which im afraid i can talk about publicly. But it is important that we carry on modernising our armed forces. Just going looking in america now, obviously, president ial election is underway and donald trump is the republican presumptive nominee for that. Its possible he could be in the white house by 2025, and weve just heard from hungarian Prime Minister viktor orban, he met donald trump. He said that mr donald trump. He said that mr trump would not fund ukraine if he became president of the united states. Does that concern you . What message would you send to donald trump . Well i think its actually really very straightforward. Theres one thing that donald trump definitely doesnt want to see its other leaders looking at the west coming to the conclusion in an america that it wont step up when it comes to it. And perhaps in 2 or 3 years, youll get sort of bored and disaffected and leave that battle behind. And i think when it comes to things that trump himself says he really cares about, taiwan being obvious about, taiwan being an obvious example, single example, the clearest single message send to anyone who message to send to anyone who thought that force was the way to reunify would be to abandon ukraine. We do currently have a real world crisis in the red sea people will understandably, perhaps, question why we havent seen an Aircraft Carrier there to conduct strikes on the houthis, rather than flying typhoons on 3000 mile bombing round trips from cyprus. What would you say to them . If i needed the Aircraft Carrier there, i would have sent it there. There was actually no logistical advantage in doing that, and the reality of the situation is that even when america went and bombed the iraqi aligned militias the other week in syria and iraq, you know, where they flew those, from, not from the Aircraft Carrier, which they did actually have in the red sea, but all the way from the united states, which a heck of a lot further which is a heck of a lot further than flying typhoons from than flying the typhoons from its to those targets. Its base to those targets. Well, the defence secretary there a wide ranging there quite a wide ranging interview. Lets talk to former senior British Military advisor , senior British Military advisor, Major General, Major General chip chapman. Major general, Major General chip chapman. Sorry, chip. Ill chip chapman. Sorry, chip. Ill get your title right eventually. Good to see you this morning. It strikes me. I mean, obviously, the big headline figure out of this is three. He wants 3 of gdp on defence spending, which is where you would ideally want to be. It strikes me that he he wouldnt have come out with this unless it had been signed off somewhere. First. I dont think thats necessarily the case. I think hes putting pressure on rishi sunak to embed this within the conservative manifesto. Rishi sunak , of course, has said that sunak, of course, has said that we will try and get to 2. 5 gdp when conditions allow , and the when conditions allow, and the best way to conditions allowing is for growth in the uk economy. And we heard yesterday that we return to growth with a 0. 2 rise in gdp. That is how you rise in gdp. That is how you really fund these defence, increase is of course, this is a difference between campaigning, embedding it in the manifesto and the reality of governing. So and the reality of governing. So its good in terms of putting it in the manifesto, whether it actually comes to fruition. Well have to wait and see. Do you think its something that that rishi sunak would implement because you think within his own party it would be very popular with mps, but very popular with tory mps, but isuppose very popular with tory mps, but i suppose thinking an i suppose hes thinking an election about the public i suppose hes thinking an elec how about the public i suppose hes thinking an elechow popular ut the public i suppose hes thinking an elechow popular it the public i suppose hes thinking an elec how popular it would|blic i suppose hes thinking an elec how popular it would bec i suppose hes thinking an elechow popular it would be in, and how popular it would be in, in the public eye to spend more money on defence, because to many in the public theyd many people in the public theyd say, well, were actually in say, well, were not actually in the of war, so why would the throes of war, so why would we be spending more money when were get on were struggling to get food on the table . And thats the no. And thats the opportunity that has to opportunity cost that he has to weigh up in political terms. Weve got schools the weve got schools with the wrack, the concrete falling around. Nhs which around. Weve got an nhs which is calling for more is always calling for more money. Welfare budget under money. The welfare budget under strain. So theres a calculation in political terms about which gets the most in terms of the manifesto, and for the future, its also worth saying that there was a report that came out this week, the us annual threat assessment , which also said that assessment, which also said that russia almost certainly does not want a direct military conflict with the us and nato forces. So with the us and nato forces. So if you look at the yin and yang of this, you know, there are counter arguments to say you probably dont need 3 with all those other things pertain. Thats different for those European Countries which are nearest to , russia and the nearest to, russia and the ukraine conflict. And of course, he had that grant shapps made this statement in poland, which is currently spending 3. 9 of its gdp on defence, as are all those countries which border russia, such as, estonia , 2. 7, russia, such as, estonia, 2. 7, lithuania 2. 5, finland 2. 5 and new nato member and latvia 2. 3. So those closest to russia take more cognisance of this. Thats certainly true, but we are i mean, hes quite right, isnt he . When he says were in a more dangerous world. And the one thing which is pretty clear is that the uk is not in a position to take a great deal of action anywhere. So, i mean, certainly not unilaterally. Well, we need we desperately need more spending, dont we . And a stronger armed forces. Stronger armed forces. Well, we are in a more dangerous world. But its also true that you have to understand how the budget works. So, for example, support to ukraine, which is the best way to ensure that nato , because there wont that nato, because there wont be a sovereign operation, doesnt have to war, doesnt have to go to war, support to ukraine comes out of the treasury reserve , which of the treasury reserve, which of course is borrowed money. It doesnt come out the defence doesnt come out of the defence budget. That doesnt come out of the defence budget. That a doesnt come out of the defence budget. That a different budget. That is a different thing, same way as, for thing, the same way as, for example, operations are example, that operations are paid from the treasury paid for from the treasury reserve, for defence reserve, not for the defence budget. So, for example, budget. So, for example, replenishment for the replenishment of stocks for the attacks on the houthis would come from the treasury reserve, not out of the Current Defence budget. What you make of mark what do you make of mark francoiss comments in pmqs yesterday , he was warning the pm yesterday, he was warning the pm that lessons need to be learnt from world war ii. He doesnt want to see a situation where not enough is invested, and then we are caught short. Do you think that could be the reality . Think that could be the reality . Yeah, thats absolutely true. If you dont want to spend 48 of gdp, which is what occurred in world war ii because appeasement didnt work, then thats what youre going to get to. So it is absolutely true that spending money up front, not necessarily in gdp terms, but making sure youve got the capability you need is more important. And going to war is a important. And going to war is a very expensive business. Its also a political, business, not also a political, business, not a legal business. To say youre at war as a political turmoil is not a legal terme. None of us are at war at the moment. Ive always said, ellie, that i dont think its actually helpful to say were in a pre war period. Were in the longest post war peace since 1945. Do you want to preserve that . Give money from the treasury reserve to ukraine. So ukraine succeeds. So youve so ukraine succeeds. So youve put russia back in its box for the next 50 years. Okay. Chip chapman as always, good to see you. Thanks very much. Much. Now, Prince William and prince harry are set to attend an Award Ceremony to honour their late mother, Princess Diana. Yeah. Diana. Yeah. Prince william will make an appearance at the diana legacy awards this evening. Prince harry will attend virtually later on. So its been reported that the brothers paths wont cross, even in cyberspace. No. No. No. Well, meanwhile, the princess of wales, kate middleton, has been crowned britains favourite royal. But this survey was taken before the recent photoshop saga. So were asking this morning does that change things . Well joining us now is gb news royal correspondent cameron walker. Really good to see you this morning, cameron. And shall we start with the princes because it is such a shame theyre not in the same room because if anybody could reunite these brothers, would be these two brothers, it would be their mother. Their late mother. They appear to yeah, exactly. They appear to be actively avoiding each other, which is not exactly surprising. But say, ali, i think i but as you say, ali, i think i mean, i cant speak for prince diana, obviously, think diana, obviously, but i think most people say that she most people would say that she would heartbroken to fact would be heartbroken to the fact that brothers have are so that the brothers have are so far the moment. We far apart at the moment. We understand not on speaking understand the not on speaking terms theres terms clearly. Theres been a lot of cannon fodder in both directions, but particularly from prince harry publicly from prince harry so publicly with memoir spare, the with his memoir spare, the Netflix Series and Everything Else that went with megxit else that went along with megxit but the whole point. But i think it shows the fact that they both are to take part, albeit are willing to take part, albeit virtually, that they are virtually, shows that they are both to both a incredibly committed to honounng both a incredibly committed to honouring of their honouring the legacy of their late mother. And this whole late mother. And this whole awards was to promote awards was set up to promote Princess Dianas belief that young the power to young people have the power to change world better, change the world for the better, and i think with both their charity work, both Prince William and harry, really william and harry, you really see dianas rubbing off see dianas legacy rubbing off on them and promoting young people, championing young people. And that, i think, is what were going to see tonight. Yeah. As you say, its yeah. And as you say, its important that they are both still involved it. Still involved in it. But its the issue. Its what we always get with this. Now this is a very positive this this is a very positive thing. Its a, its a its a positive awards night. Its a positive awards night. Its a positive program. And yet we still inevitably end up focusing on the negative because of whats going on. Thats a real shame. Yeah. Its the 25th anniversary of the awards, this year of course, in times gone by, both of them would have been attending the engagement together. Thats not happening. William happening. So Prince William will be at the Science Museum for the awards tonight. He will deliver a speech and presents the awards to the winners. Prince harry, on the other hand, will appear when prince will only appear when Prince William left , and only william has left, and only virtually. Thats the virtually. Thats what the reports saying. Havent reports are saying. We havent had confirmed kensington had that confirmed by Kensington Palace, looks like prince palace, but it looks like prince harry be doing video calls harry will be doing video calls with but it is with the winners. But it is a shame because you dont get because thing really because the whole thing really is overshadowed by all our is being overshadowed by all our Prince William and harry still feuding rather focusing on feuding rather than focusing on the and the 20 winners. The awards and the 20 winners. Its shame, isnt it . Its such a shame, isnt it . Should talk about the should we talk about the princess wales because she princess of wales because she has been crowned britains favourite royal . Perhaps a surprise to nobody , but this was surprise to nobody, but this was taken. This survey was taken before photoshop saga and i before the photoshop saga and i have been stunned by the conspiracy theories that ive seen online surrounding that whole photoshop saga. Do you think that has damaged her reputation at all, or do you think people are actually just very sympathetic to her in the situation . Well, its made the conspiracy theories more mainstream. I think most people dismissed stuff dismissed a lot of the stuff that the internet before that was on the internet before this photoshop scandal, but now its us an, well, its kind of given us an, well, not an excuse, but its clearly a lot more people are talking about conspiracy theories, a lot more people are talking abias conspiracy theories, a lot more people are talking abias the� nspiracy theories, a lot more people are talking abias the princess theories, a lot more people are talking abias the princess ofzories, as as with the princess of waless popularity , she is the waless popularity, she is the most popular royal. According to the latest ipsos poll , yougov the latest ipsos poll, yougov very ratings for very similar polling ratings for the princess. I dont think theyre going to be damaged that much by this scandal because we look at the gb news viewers inbox and vast, vast majority of people are so supportive of the princess of wales and think shes been hard done by it was an honest mistake. Clearly Prince William understandably very protective of his family and i. And clearly lessons need to be learned. But i think the princess editing this photo was in good faith and was wanting to give the best possible appearance of her children as possible. So yeah, i dont see what all the fuss is about. I think the problem was the whole of image was to whole point of the image was to quash conspiracy theories, whole point of the image was to quarits conspiracy theories, whole point of the image was to quarits just nspiracy theories, whole point of the image was to quarits just added y theories, whole point of the image was to quarits just added y thito ies, whole point of the image was to quarits just added y thito the and its just added fuel to the fire. I think thats the fire. And i think thats the issue here. And it has damaged, Kensington Palace trust because all News Agencies have all these News Agencies have pulled they are pulled the image. So they are going have to think very going to have to think very carefully about how much carefully about really how much control prince and control Prince William and sorry, Prince William and sorry, prince Prince William and kate have of exactly what content they put out and whether it should be edited to the same extent, do we know actually what was edited . I know theres other stuff about her hand and it was charlottes wrist, but was was the picture substantially manipulated or just tweaked . No, that photograph was taken last week at adelaide cottage in windsor. A professional news photographer told it a uk news program a couple of days ago that you can tell that they were all at that spot at the same time. So kate wasnt, for example, morphed into the image because you can see the reflection in all their eyes are exactly the same. So theres the softbox light on one side. Theres a reflector on the other. Very professional setup, i hasten to bearing in mind i hasten to add. Bearing in mind prince the Prince William is taking the photograph. Which photograph. But the things which were it , it looks like. Were changed, it, it looks like. I think the best educated guess, though , of course this is not though, of course this is not confirmed, is that several photographs taken and photographs were taken and morphed kate into one, morphed by kate into one, but they were certainly not different. Photographs morphed into one. Right . Okay, so there you go. Right . Okay, so there you go. Essentially a fuss about nothing tidying up of an image. Yes. Thank nothing tidying up of an image. Yes. Thank you. Yes. Nothing tidying up of an image. Yes. Thank you. Yes. Leave yes. Thank you. Yes. Leave him alone. Him alone. Thats what i say. All right, lets see what the weathers going to do for you. Heres alex. A brighter outlook with boxt solar , sponsors of weather on. Solar, sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Morning. Heres your latest weather for gb news from the met office. More rain to come as we go through today, but at least it is going to be pretty mild before a showery day for tomorrow. I said though, tomorrow. Like i said though, plenty around today, plenty of rain around today, a band pushing its northwards band pushing its way northwards into parts of scotland across northern ireland, some of northern ireland, and some of that turn heavy. Even that rain could turn heavy. Even a little bit of wintry mix, some sleet or snow over the highest ground eastern parts sleet or snow over the highest gr , but cloud outbreaks of , but cloud and outbreaks of showery feeding up from the showery rain feeding up from the southwest some brisk, southwest on some brisk, blustery like i said blustery winds. Like i said though , on the mild side though, on the mild side temperatures well above temperatures are well above average time of year for average for the time of year for most of though a little bit most of us, though a little bit chillier towards the north. More rain to we go through rain to come as we go through the end of the day, particularly across but it across parts of scotland, but it does to away as we go does start to push away as we go into tomorrow. There will be some clear around tonight, some clear skies around tonight, but outbreaks but also further outbreaks of showery some these showery rain, and some of these could pack punch. There could really pack a punch. There could really pack a punch. There could the occasional could be the occasional downpour. Temperatures, though not a huge amount not dropping a huge amount because of blustery winds because of the blustery winds and generally mild theme to and the generally mild theme to things. Places in things. Many places staying in double overnight as we double figures overnight as we go through friday itself, then a largely showery and blustery day for many of us. Watch out as some of showers could be some of those showers could be heavy, thundery, heavy, possibly even thundery, particularly heavy, possibly even thundery, part southeast of the uk. Signs and southeast of the uk. Signs of something a little bit drier pushing from west. But pushing in from the west. But for many it is going to be a largely showery picture. Largely showery picture. Temperatures still well above average the time of year, so average for the time of year, so highs around possibly 17 highs of around 16, possibly 17 celsius by by that warm feeling inside from boxt boiler as sponsors of weather on gb news. Thanks, alex. Now spring is in the air and so is your chance to win a garden gadget package, a shopping spree and an incredible £12,345 in tax free cash. Heres how you can make all those prizes yours. 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Well, it should be always considered a serious breach of trust. Now, relationship experts have said people cheat for a variety of reasons, including angen variety of reasons, including anger, low self esteem and neglect. Well, in the past, men had affairs with that. Well, they still do unfortunately have affairs, have affairs with their colleagues and women have had affairs with friends and neighbours. Dont they have affairs with colleagues . They could also have affairs with as well. But now with colleagues as well. But now the for infidelity the opportunity for infidelity has apparently increased, with both the both partners now in the workforce as well. One study has revealed that more than 50 of men strayed. Oh dear. More than 50 of men strayed. Oh dear. Whilst apparently being dear. Whilst apparently being happyin dear. Whilst apparently being happy in their marriage. Happy in their marriage. Oh dear. Oh dear. Compared to just 34 of women, these numbers are staggering and terrifying. Well, joining us now to debate this is break up and divorce coach sara davison and comedian mike mclean. I mean, those numbers are really quite staggering. Sara, what do you make of them . Make of them . Well, i do think so. I think that obviously cheating is not okay. Stephen said. You know, it does cause so much hurt and pain and can really disrupt family life as well, especially if you have children. So obviously its not okay. And betrayal isnt sexy. Lies are not acceptable. And deceit is not attractive, so its not the basis for a healthy relationship. Yeah, unfortunately, right now we are seeing a rise in infidelity and a lot of that comes down to the fact that were in the middle of a cost of living crisis. The divorce rate is actually slowing down at the moment because its too expensive to separate and get divorced, especially if youve so again, get divorced, especially if you of so again, get divorced, especially if you of reasons so again, get divorced, especially if you of reasons why so again, get divorced, especially if you of reasons why people in, get divorced, especially if you of reasons why people are lots of reasons why people are forced to stay unhappy forced to stay in unhappy marriages right so , mike, marriages right now, so, mike, do we forgive and forget if someone strays or do you have to write off the relationship . No, theyve got to go. No, theyve got to go. Theyve got to go 100. If theyre going to do it once, theyll do it again and they will do it again. You know, as you say, a leopard never changes its spots. And i dont think he will. And i think its also easier because of social easier today because of social media. If you see media. You know, if you see somebody like on the somebody that you like on the telly somebody that youve telly or somebody that youve been you and you get been out and you see and you get their name, you can look them up on twitter, facebook, instagram, next can next thing you know, you can send message and send them a direct message and you contact with them and you make contact with them and you make contact with them and you chat them and youre you chat with them and youre flirting them. Thats flirting with them. And thats all behind your back, you all done behind your back, you know. Lot easier know. So its a lot easier today. You know, dad was today. You know, my dad was married mum for 55 years. Married to my mum for 55 years. And never strayed. Never strayed because too house because he loved his too house much. Oh do you think it does. Do you think it ever comes to down circumstance, mike . Because you just heard from sarah there. Theres a lot of people staying in now because in unhappy marriages now because they cannot afford to they simply cannot afford to separate or get divorced because the of living crisis. Do the cost of living crisis. Do you think perhaps circumstance ever comes into this . No, i think shes absolutely right. I mean, i got divorced, a solicitor costs a fortune. A barrister costs a fortune. Going to court costs a fortune , its to court costs a fortune, its just so expensive. So its probably a lot easier. I totally agree with you. Yeah, its probably a lot easierjust to probably a lot easier just to stay in that unhappy marriage and. And play away. Yeah but theres. Are we being to broad stroke with this sara it be need. Are with this sara it be need. Are there different circumstances. I there different circumstances. I mean if someones a serial cheater or theyre is a difference between that isnt there and someone making a drunken mistake. Yeah, absolutely. Stephen. There are people that are obviously going to always cheat. Theyre going to happen. Its going to happen because theyre theyve got a fear of intimacy. They are scared of getting too close someone. So will close to someone. So they will always sabotage that relationship to relationship before they have to have of connection. Have that depth of connection. But not a lot of people know this, but you know, there is a real, issue that its not just bad people that cheat. I think 20 years ago, it was very much accepted that if you cheated, it was bad and go to hell. Im was bad and you go to hell. Im not saying its good, but good people cheat as well. And people do cheat as well. And thats because the number one human need that we all have as human need that we all have as human beings love human beings is love and connection. If not connection. And if were not getting that from our current relationship, then we look relationship, then we will look elsewhere. Because its that elsewhere. And because its that number one driving need for us, we will compromise and sacrifice our morals and values to get it. So thats when infidelity comes into play. If youre not being loved, youre being loved, if youre not being treated well, then again, this could be something that then attracts us to somebody who shows kindness or that shows us that kindness or that affection were not getting affection that were not getting at sometimes good at home. So sometimes good people too , and they people do cheat too, and they feel terrible, terrible about it and very ashamed. But its something that drives us internally that we cant always override. Override. And, mike, do you think good people can cheat . People can cheat . I dont i wouldnt call them good people if theyre a cheat. Theyre not good people, are they . Its i just they . You know, its i just dont think you put the two words together good and cheat. Words together good and cheat. No, theyre just bad people, and thats it at the end of the day. But. But if a lot of people listening, though, feel very sad about that, because i dont think its always, you know, that you go out to be malicious, to cheat. Think sometimes its i think sometimes its because were just not getting what need home. Im not what we need at home. Im not saying and im not saying its okay, and im not saying its okay, and im not saying okay it, but saying theyre okay with it, but theyre bad people setting theyre not bad people setting out hurt their partner. Its out to hurt their partner. Its just that found just a situation that they found themselves in, which they subconsciously , well, you subconsciously think, well, you are, because youre subconsciously thinking of doing it. So you are setting out to hurt your other half, i sort of i completely disagree with that , i completely disagree with that, okay. Well, look, good to talk to you both this morning, sarah davidson. Mike mclean, thanks very much indeed. Im sure youve got a view on it. Gb views gbnews. Com i think maybe i think sarah has a point. Do you . Think sarah has a point. Do you . If yes, if people are happy, are unhappy or were not getting the affection they need at home, then theyre going to look for that affection elsewhere. But thats getting out. But thats but thats why you have to work at marriage, isnt it . Youve at a marriage, isnt it . Youve got to work to make sure that people feel the affection. All the rest of it would, i have the rest of it. It would, i have to say it would finish or to say it would finish me off or finish me off. Those stats, 50 of men and those stats, 50 of men strayed, 34 of women. Is that in all marriages . Well thats half. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Thats terrifying. Thats terrifying. It is. Well, it is awful. And so the majority of those will not be there. Will there will be for bad and selfish reasons. Oh yeah. For bad and selfish reasons. Oh yeah. Are you one would imagine yeah. Are you one would imagine that would be the majority. Yes. Im, im, im not tolerant of fidelity at all. Well neither am i. Let us know what you think. Gb views that gb news. Com right. Lets see what pauls got for us coming up in just a moment. Ooh. Some sport bournemouth and luton. What a game that was. So luton. What a game that was. So well talk more about that. And also probably the biggest bore youve seen on gb news since. Well fill in the words yourself ill leave that. But well talk about that. That comes on the river severn. So well talk about surfing on the river about that surfing on the river severn river severn coming up shortly. 841. Good morning to you. I know youre itching for all the sport this morning, paul is here. Hello. Hello. Weve got to talk. We have to that that match. We have to have a quiet word about it, dont we . Really . Luton and bournemouth. It was one of those games where you think. Oh, luton and bournemouth wednesday night. I dont know whether to be whether this is going to be anything. Was, it was at anything. But it was, it was at bournemouth and it really was because luton there have gone oven because luton there have gone over. The thing is it was over. And the thing is it was a basically it was postponed back in tom lockyer, in december when tom lockyer, the of luton, we know the captain of luton, we know the captain of luton, we know the story about him and he had the story about him and he had the cardiac arrest on the pitch and he went back. So it was obviously a very emotional day for you to the, for him, you know, to see the, the medical services and the people that were there to help him. He went there and went him. So he went there and went before the game. Ive said before the game. But ive said this twice before, and you know what, this is this twice before, and you know whethe this is this twice before, and you know whethe game this is this twice before, and you know whethe game you this is this twice before, and you know whethe game you want this is this twice before, and you know whethe game you want to is is this twice before, and you know whethe game you want to be s not the game you want to be involved in. Luton obviously he wasnt playing, but luton went three at half time. So three nil up at half time. So the luton fans are thinking this is know everybodys is it. You know everybodys saying going saying that were going to go down again. Singing down again. Theyre singing were staying up. Then were staying up. But then bournemouth whatever they bournemouth came. Whatever they gave in their tea gave to bournemouth in their tea at half time the interval. As at half time or the interval. As we mentioned earlier, the interval, the interval into the interval, the interval into the interval the intermission interval was the intermission was it was the intermission. Sorry steve. But anyway four goals after that. And, goals came after that. And, after luton being three nil up bournemouth then went three one up went three one 50 minute 62nd, then the 64th. Its three three then honestly its trying to stop the tide. And the other goal came and then it was four three. What snack were they having in the intermission. In the intermission. Thats what i want to know. What they had in the intermission a boost whatever it was, whatever it was, the pep talk, as steven said. Exactly. I did the job. It must have been so depressed. I mean, as soon as they hit all, you they hit three all, you know, you going. You know where its going. Yeah. Yeah. Awful. You know where its awful. You know where its going. Probably even at three, two. Ive been involved. Was ive been involved. It was saying and leicester saying that spurs and leicester are two teams in the are the only two teams in the premier league have been premier league that have been three down, a three nil up three nil down, a three nil up at half then after at half time and then lost after that. It was that. And spurs, when it was manchester it was five Manchester United it was five three. Even happened. Three. It even happened. I remember playing Manchester City in cup. And watching in the league cup. And watching the and you know when the the game and you know when the tide has turned, even when the first one goes you think first one goes in you think somethings going to happen here. Pretty much here. And luton pretty much capitulated that. So capitulated after that. So really not good. Then really not good. And then theyve got Nottingham Forest at theyve got Nottingham Forest at the oh whos your money on for oh whos your money on for that then. Because thats going to now it. To be crucial now isnt it. Dont know. You oh i just dont know. You know i could tell you i know i wish i could tell you i just dont know where thats going go because nottingham going to go because Nottingham Forest saying and, that forest theyre saying and, that they the rub of the they havent had the rub of the green come green when its come to refereeing decisions, but refereeing decisions, its but then do when then again, you never do when youre there. But it will youre down there. But it will be a ding dong. Yeah. You guarantee itll be a ding dong. Should we talk about the Champions League . League. No. Yeah. Champions league. No. No in the no penalty shootout in the champions in eight years. Champions league in eight years. Asked before asked a11 the day before yesterday. Of course yesterday. And then of course you another one. And that you get another one. And that was milan against atletico was inter milan against atletico madrid. On madrid. Inter milan lost on penalties borussia penalties to atletico. Borussia dortmund eindhoven. So dortmund beat Psv Eindhoven. So where now for, it leaves where we are now for, it leaves us with these teams that are left the Champions League left in the Champions League draw the next and that draw for the next round and that happens friday, tsitsipas happens on friday, tsitsipas around madrid. All the big around madrid. Its all the big boys bayern munich, boys psg, bayern munich, dortmund , atletico, arsenal and dortmund, atletico, arsenal and manchester thats where Manchester City. So thats where were looking and the draw is going to be made on friday. Now tonight youve got Europa League and all the and conference league, all the british teams are at home, which is good for a second leg. So rangers are two, all against benfica rangers are two, all against benfica from spain. Nearby portugal. Portugal is correct. Portugal. Portugal is correct. So thats ibrox. West ham will be playing freiburg, germany. Very good. Was it the accident that helped . Very good. Thank you so much. Very good. Thank you so much. So west ham were one nil down but theyre at home for that this afternoon. Liverpool five one up against sparta roma prague oh oh right czech repubuc prague oh oh right Czech Republic brighton. That was very poor by brighton. Nil roma four. That better be italy. That better be italy. It is. Yeah. Yeah so brighton have got a lot of work to do and aston villa will hoping to clean up against ajax. Hold on. Hold on. Sparta actually called sparta prague. Yes they are. Yes they are. Well you still got it. Well you still got it. And you still got it right with sparta, sparta, prague then im pretty much giving it away. When you say sparta, i think rome , obviously youve got to rome, obviously youve got to say, well, i apologise, i do apologise , i feel as if i have to. We have a large axe now, talking of large boars. Yes, paul talking of large boars. Yes, paul, talking to you when it comes to sport, what you comes to sport, what have you got large boars . Got for us on large boars . Frankly, nothing. Now quite frankly, nothing. Now oh, the large bore. The oh, no, the large bore. The seven bore. The seven bore. The seven bore. The seven bore. The seven which is quite seven bore, which is quite frankly phenomena. It frankly a phenomena. And it moves with the tide. So its the its the severn estuary where its at the severn estuary where the bristol channel, the severn. Look, this is it. So weve got surfing in the olympics, you know, for the paris olympics. You where theyre having you know where theyre having that paris. No, no that dont you. Paris. No, no theyre actually having theyre not actually having it in paris. Theyre going in paris. Theyre actually going to the surfing. Well to tahiti for the surfing. Well thats because you dont thats nice because you dont get a in paris. Well, maybe get a bore in paris. Well, maybe you like this one. And there you do like this one. And there we theres surfers. And we are. Theres surfers. And this the highest bore that this is the highest bore that there is on the severn. This year up to 50ft year sometimes gets up to 50ft of tidal water. Wow. It moves up river, forming fast paced waves. Well, theyre very surface and kayaks can ride, so its only five star bore of the year, the second highest in the world. Its all to do with the phases of the moon, and quite frankly, not boring slightest. Yes not boring in the slightest. Yes it that excellent . It is. Isnt that excellent . Its brilliant. Thats me, the third you missed it. Yeah, third guy. You missed it. Yeah, yeah, probably missed him, yeah, you probably missed him, but me. But that was me. You winning . Lovely, are you winning . Lovely, paul are you winning . Lovely, paul. Very much paul. Thanks very much indeed. You tomorrow. See you tomorrow. See you tomorrow. To is still to come . Is it time to give princess wales give the princess of wales all right. Lets see whats in the papers. Briefly, im in the papers. Briefly, im afraid, with former government adviser to michael gove. Charlie adviser to michael gove. Charlie rowley and the writer and commentator Candice Holdsworth. Commentator Candice Holdsworth. Good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning, charlie , morning, good morning, charlie, the telegraph says autumn general election. General election. Its a goer. Its a goer. Yes. And, that is where the money is. If youre a gambling person, may i still say no . Ive said november from the start. Have you . Why would you start. Have you . Why would you go early . What would the benefit in going early be . Well, i think to probably its that cat strategy when its that dead cat strategy when you sort of throw a dead cat on the table, it sort of it shocks the table, it sort of it shocks the into actually now the country into actually now having about having to think about it seriously, months you seriously, after months of, you know, politics that this country has go through , people has had to go through, people now have to focussed the now will have to be focussed the mind, do they actually mind, you know, do they actually want a Labour Government . What do for . Do they do labour stand for . Do they actually to vote for actually want to vote for reform . If its labour in through back you know, through the back door, you know, can tories have a strong can the tories have a strong message they just, as message that they can just, as you continue to , to, to, to you continue to, to, to, to govern if they get elected. So theres but, but i think there are lots of people telling the Prime Minister, dont go early now, lets have a great summer. Lets get on with i say, no, lets get on with it. Mind you, i think if its may the 2nd, it would have to announce on the 19th of announce it on the 19th of march, wouldnt or would they . Yeah. Yes its around then. Its either the 19th or the 21st, which is only in next week, next week. So know, what would you so you know, what would you do you were charge, charlie . Well, come every oh, well, id come here every day and. No, no, the general no, no, with the general election, you really believe on your show . I know you would. About general election, id leave it to leave it to candice. Oh. Oh. It depends. Depends what your big is. Big priority is. You want to see off any do you want to see off any leadership shenanigans . Then you go early. Yeah, a fair point, yeah, thats a fair point, candice, front of the times candice, front page of the times looking cancer. Candice, front page of the times loo yeah. Cancer. Candice, front page of the times loo yeah. This cancer. Candice, front page of the times loo yeah. This is cancer. Candice, front page of the times loo yeah. This is actuallyer. Yeah. So this is actually really interesting. So theyre saying deaths have saying that cancer deaths have fallen by third in middle aged fallen by a third in middle aged people the 1990s. Mean, people since the 1990s. I mean, the fewer people aged 35 to the same fewer people aged 35 to 69 are now dying, according to the british medical journal. And they attribute to a few they attribute this to a few things say one is Better Things they say one is better screening. So youve got much screening. So youve got much better screening for things like breast cancer, prostate cancer, bowel cancer, Cervical Cancer. Bowel cancer, Cervical Cancer. And particularly one of the big things in Cervical Cancer is the development of the hpv vaccine. And thats been a game changer , and thats been a game changer, which has prevented Cervical Cancer deaths and women. And then the third theyre saying is then the third theyre saying is the fall in smoking. Fewer people smoking which is people are smoking now, which is connected cancer deaths. Connected to lung cancer deaths. And think other types of and i think other types of deaths in instances it can deaths in some instances it can be to bowel cancer be linked to bowel cancer deaths, though i think deaths, though not all. I think some thats just genetic. And some of thats just genetic. And this i will strengthen the this i think will strengthen the governments argument for the generational ban. Generational smoking ban. So theyre to say , look, this theyre going to say, look, this pubuc theyre going to say, look, this Public Health intervention, its a one. Actually if it a big one. But actually if it means cancer deaths are falling, then were totally justified in doing it, obviously, to doing it, obviously, contra to people think that britains people who think that britains become such an outlier on this issue, it goes against issue, that it goes against Civil Liberties. Civil liberties. Yeah, an interesting yeah, its an interesting its an interesting one. Its an interesting one. Should we finish off with a baked potato, charlie. Yes. Well, this is a school yes. Well, this is a school in southampton where a head teacher has had to apologise to the parents of pupils who are receiving this, less than edible. It looked to me a meal, the head teacher was saying, that, you know, with all the constraints that they think that they had, hed never give anything to his kids that he wouldnt give to the kids in his school. But he said this was totally unacceptable because the catering that they have catering contract that they have and caterers delivering and the caterers delivering something that is clearly a disgusting with disgusting what was wrong with it . It . They couldnt bake a potato, just chocolate fowl. I mean, the pictures looked absolutely foul. I would not want my kids to eat food. Want my kids to eat that food. I mean, our Whatsapp Group for mean, my our Whatsapp Group for my primary is my childs Primary School is dominated by discussions about food. To get the food. If you want to get the whatsapp, the Whatsapp Group going, parent group going, the parent Whatsapp Group group talk about the group going, talk about what the kids lunch that day. Kids had for lunch that day. Really . Some of it doesnt really . Yes, some of it doesnt look outraged about it. Look too outraged about it. Right. Some sandwiches. Oh right. Some sandwiches. Oh right. Some sandwiches. I just, you know, well, i just, you know, schools must able to i know schools must be able to i know there was a contract through the city council well. But you city council as well. But you know, school should just be know, the school should just be able to tear up a contract and if it doesnt to and just if it doesnt want to and just employ someone else, some employ someone else, get some new want the employ someone else, get some ndidnt want the employ someone else, get some ndidnt know want the employ someone else, get some ndidnt know what want the employ someone else, get some ndidnt know what the want the employ someone else, get some ndidnt know what the problem i didnt know what the problem is, how that would be. Is, how difficult that would be. I shouldnt that difficult. I shouldnt be that difficult. And important, and decent food is important, isnt it . Especially when comes to especially when it comes to children. Whats more children. Yes. Whats more important that . Important than that . And healthy Healthy Eating and Healthy Eating mean, its eating options. I mean, its a marked i think, marked difference, i think, between, generation and between, say, my generation and my generation. Nowadays, my parents generation. Nowadays, parents want Healthy Options much yeah. So yeah. So yeah. All right. All right. Weve got to leave it there. Charlie. Candice, thanks very much thank you. Charlie. Candice, thanks very mu heres thank you. Charlie. Candice, thanks very mu heres alex hank you. Charlie. Candice, thanks very mu heres alex with you. Charlie. Candice, thanks very mu heres alex with the|. Charlie. Candice, thanks very mu heres alex with the weather. Heres alex with the weather. Heres alex with the weather. Looks like things are heating up. Boxt boilers sponsors of weather on. Gb news morning. Weather on. Gb news morning. Heres your latest weather for gb news from the met office. More rain to come as we go through today. But at least it is going to be pretty mild before a showery day for tomorrow. Like i said though, plenty of rain around today. A band its way northwards band pushing its way northwards into of scotland across into parts of scotland across northern ireland, and some of that could turn heavy even that rain could turn heavy even a little of wintry ness, a little bit of wintry ness, some or snow over the some sleet or snow over the highest ground across more eastern england. Eastern parts of england. Its actually be largely actually going to be largely fine. Some sunshine fine. Some decent sunshine through day, but through much of the day, but cloud outbreaks of showery cloud and outbreaks of showery rain feeding up from the southwest brisk, southwest on some brisk, blustery winds. Like i said though, on the mild side temperatures well above temperatures are well above average the time of year for average for the time of year for most us, though a little bit most of us, though a little bit chillier towards north. More chillier towards the north. More rain we go through rain to come as we go through the day, particularly the end of the day, particularly across parts of scotland, but it does push away as we go does start to push away as we go into tomorrow. There will be some around tonight, some clear skies around tonight, but also further outbreaks of showery some of showery rain and some of these could really punch. There could really pack a punch. There could really pack a punch. There could the occasional downpour could be the occasional downpour temperatures, not temperatures, though, not dropping amount because dropping a huge amount because of blustery winds and the of the blustery winds and the generally themes things. Generally mild themes of things. Many double many places staying in double figures overnight as we go through itself, then through friday itself, then a largely showery and blustery day for us. Watch out as for many of us. Watch out as some those showers could be some of those showers could be heavy, possibly thundery, heavy, possibly even thundery, particularly south particularly towards the south and the signs and southeast of the uk. Signs of something little bit drier of something a little bit drier pushing in from the west, but for it is going to be for many it is going to be a largely showery picture. Temperatures still well above average for the time of year, so highs of around 16, possibly 17 celsius by a brighter outlook celsius by by a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on well. Well. Good morning to you. Its 9 00, thursday, the 14th of march. Today the government is set to name and shame islamist and far right groups that incite hatred. As number 10 releases a new definition of extremism, well be talking to michael gove later on. A new definition of extremism. The first since 2011. But will it catch the right people and will it stop our democracy being torn apart . Democracy being torn apart . The princess of wales is crowned britains favourite royal, but this survey was conducted before the mothers day photo saga. Were asking has it changed things . Well, meanwhile, william and harry set to honour their mother diana at an event today, but they wont be seen together. They wont be seen together. Princess dianas legacy meant to be honoured in this Award Ceremony tonight. But the feud continues with harry and william. Could it overshadow more details shortly . More details shortly . Once a cheat, always a cheat. Once a cheat, always a cheat. Stats suggest that infidelity is on the rise, but were asking can a leopard really change its spots this morning . Whilst there will be some fine weather across eastern parts today, elsewhere, its going to be a wetter story and then tomorrow is looking showery. Ill have the details shortly. Shortly. Morning to you. Im Stephen Dixon and im Eddie Costello and this is breakfast on. This is breakfast on. Gb news. Well, weve been talking about that cheating business all morning. 50 of men who are supposedly in happy marriages cheat. 34 of women. Diana says. Dont justify it. If youre unhappyin dont justify it. If youre unhappy in a relationship. There are many choices you can make that dont involve cheating. Well, i would agree. Yeah, cheating causes so much trauma to everyone involved and often the children. Its a good point, lorna says no one is tolerant of infidelity until they come to be involved in it themselves, well , maybe thats themselves, well, maybe thats a thats a fair point, paul says as someone who didnt whos never been married, its simple. Never been married, its simple. If youre unhappy in your relationship, try to fix it. If you cant walk away, do not cheat , barry says ive spent 40 cheat, barry says ive spent 40 years at sea. Royal navy and beyond. In years at sea. Royal navy and beyond. In my experience, all men want to play around period. Men want to play around period. The difference is many get out of their system as young lads, but theyre always chasing their youth. If not. Yeah. Oh well keep your thoughts coming through on that one. Gb views gb news dot com, there is lots to talk about in there is lots to talk about in the world of politics today. Weve got this extremism , stuff weve got this extremism, stuff which is going on. The government are going to name and shame islamist far right groups will include far left groups. I dont know in all of this which would ban them from any sort of interaction with Public Office and things that. But also and things like that. But also in the meantime, the labour party is setting out plans for the arts. Does it matter so much now all about britains Creative Industries . Lets talk to the industries . Lets talk to the shadow chief secretary to the treasury, darren jones , who treasury, darren jones, who joins us now. Good to see you this morning. I have to say , i this morning. I have to say, i know youve got backing for this by people like damien hirst and things saying, yes, you know, we need to encourage the arts more and it can be a good revenue stream and all the rest of it, do you think most people watching this morning really care about funding for the arts at a time when so many other things need funding . Things need funding . Well, good morning. I mean, the Creative Arts industry generates over £100 billion a year for the uk economy and employs around 2. 5 million people. Its a huge part of our economy, and as a bristol mp, for example, its a huge part of our particular local economy. So our particular local economy. So it means a lot in different parts of the country. So theres an Economic Growth opportunity there about supporting the Creative Arts, not just for consumption here in the uk, but as we know from our great films, great musicals, great tv shows , great musicals, great tv shows, great musicals, great tv shows, great from export around great music from export around the world vote winner though. The to world vote winner though. Do you think this is going to get people to vote for the labour party . Labour party . Well, were setting out our strategies today for the Creative Arts sector, not because we think its convenient electorally , but because we electorally, but because we think its important for the country. Its starting to flesh out our priorities if we are to win the election. Coming into government and supporting uk arts is an important part of that for the reasons ive just set out. But were also setting out today how we want that to be an opportunity for lots of people which people across the country, which is education is why Creative Arts education in , whether its music, in schools, whether its music, drama or art or otherwise, should be funded. There should be teachers available in schools and should be given the and people should be given the opportunity about that opportunity to learn about that and those and then take those opportunities when they leave school a bit more specific. I mean, you mentioned the Film Industry and how thats good for britain internationally and is a money spinner yet great sheet music is very important. Theatre is very important. All these sort of things which we can recognise and get involved in. But then you get some of these weird sculptures and you get, you know, damien hirst, whos backing this with his half a cow in formaldehyde and all the how does of the rest of it. How does any of that benefit the country . That benefit the country . Well, we have lots of great Art Galleries and exhibitions across the country. One of the things that were talking about today is how we make more of that available in public spaces and to the public, of course, its a proud legacy of the last Labour Government our Labour Government that our museums Labour Government that our mustons Labour Government that our musto be accessed across the free to be accessed across the country. Whether its free to be accessed across the country. Whetherits you country. And whether its, you know, the tate in liverpool, here london and in cornwall, here in london and in cornwall, or whether our municipally or whether its our municipally owned galleries and owned Art Galleries and theatres, these are an important part of our local communities. It people with joy and it provides people with joy and opportunity opportunity opportunity and the opportunity to experience and understand new things, something things, and its something that we celebrate and support. We should celebrate and support. Weve talking look, weve been talking about governments new about the governments new definition extremism all definition of extremism all morning i wanted to ask morning today. I wanted to ask about your colleague Andy Mcdonald. He represents middlesbrough. The labour party have reinstated the whip to him after he used that controversial phrase from the river to the sea at a pro palestine rally. And at a pro palestine rally. And many jewish groups, many people would say, would take issue with that phrase, saying that it calls for a destruction of israel. Hes apologised. Labour investigation has said, that nothing was found to be against the partys rulebook. Do you think its right that his whip was reinstated . And in that was reinstated . And in that sense, would you reinstate diane abbott . Well, look, all of these issues, whether they are complaints or investigations into colleagues behaviour, are done through an independent process. I, as a politician, process. I, as a politician, have no access to that. Im not briefed on that. Im not giving any detail about it all i know is when an investigation is started and when its concluded, it was concluded in respect of Andy Mcdonald yesterday, and im sure it will be concluded in respect and respect of diane and other colleagues course. Colleagues in due course. I mean, on the basis of this new move by michael gove , who new move by michael gove, who well to a little bit later well talk to a little bit later on, you think it is right on, do you think it is right that action is taken against extremist groups to sort of keep them out of public meetings, pubuc them out of public meetings, Public Office, or is there a is there a concern over free speech . I there a concern over free speech . I mean, how do you handle it . So its right that we tackle hateful extremism. Of course, thats not to be tolerated in our society. And action should be taken where that is found to be taken where that is found to be the case. The announcement from the conservatives today doesnt really go far enough in our view, in the labour party, because all its about is about government financing or engagement with organisations and individuals. Its not updating the counter extremism strategy , which is now nine strategy, which is now nine years out of date. Its not putting forward an action plan for agencies who engage on these issues in local communities to improve what theyre doing. And it rather the it therefore rather begs the question , is michael gove question, is michael gove concerned the government concerned that the government today is already funding extremism groups, and that extremism groups, and is that why come forward with why theyve come forward with this today and so, he this update today and if so, he should be about that. With should be clear about that. With the of commons this morning. Grant shapps, the defence secretary, spoken secretary, has spoken exclusively asking exclusively to gb news asking for 3 of gdp to be spent on defence. Is that something that the labour party would support . The labour party would support . Well, look, its not uncommon for defence secretaries to call for defence secretaries to call for more money. And clearly there are concerns , whether in there are concerns, whether in europe or elsewhere in the world, about the precarious situation we may find ourselves in. But actually, this story is more about the defence secretary after the conservative budget having to call for more money even. You know, i might say so on your show. What really ought to happen is the defence secretary should have had an agreement with the chancellor before last week. And before the budget last week. And this just another of the this is just another sign of the conservative being in conservative party being in chaos conservative ministers chaos and conservative ministers going to bat for themselves going out to bat for themselves in potential future in respect of potential future leadership contests. Well, look, a very clever answer. Darren jones. You didnt actually answer the question, though. Though. Well, remind me what your question was. Well, the question is, would labour support three 3 of gdp on defence . Right. Well, thats a big question for the ministry of defence about how it spends its existing budget. So you couldnt possibly come to a decision on that until youve chance to look at youve had the chance to look at how spending, what its how its spending, what its already spending. Proudly already spending. The uk proudly meets commitments on 2 meets its nato commitments on 2 of gdp that will be maintained and an incoming and guaranteed by an incoming labour but of Labour Government. But of course, in course, when youre in opposition, get access opposition, you dont get access to information from the to any information from the Ministry Defence for Security Ministry of defence for security reasons and first thing reasons. And so the first thing we have to do if we were we would have to do if we were to win the election to to win the election is to conduct Security Defence conduct a security and defence spending look at how Spending Review to look at how the is allocated and if the budget is allocated and if theres a case for more money. Im that colleague, the im sure that my colleague, the shadow john shadow defence secretary, john healey, the case for healey, will make the case for that government. That inside a Labour Government. In circumstances. That inside a Labour Government. In okay. ircumstances. Okay. Okay. Darren jones, good to talk to you. Thank darren jones, good to talk to you. Thank you. Well, lets get the thoughts of christopher of Political Editor christopher hope. See you this hope. Good to see you this morning christopher. To morning christopher. Lots to unpack there from that interview with should we with darren jones. Should we start governments new start with the governments new definition extremism . What do start with the governments new defi make extremism . What do start with the governments new defi make of extremism . What do start with the governments new defi make of that� mism . What do start with the governments new defi make of that . Iism . What do you make of that . Yeah, its about time it was updated. It was last published updated. It was last published in 2011 by michael gove, part of the prevent strategy, which is the prevent strategy, which is the twin pronged approach to attack tackle extremism. Theres attack tackle extremism. Theres protect and prevent. So this is why Michael Goves involved. Hes a community secretary. His job is to use soft power , soft job is to use soft power, soft influence to try and ensure that people are not, radicalised. This new definition out today, though, could cause a lot more headaches than it seeks to deal with. Of course, the context is october the 7th. The increase in tension on the streets. So have tension on the streets. So have you seen the marches weve covered regularly on gb news . We heard the Prime Minister two and a half weeks ago on the steps of downing street, saying very clearly felt that extremists clearly he felt that extremists from and right were from the left and right were tearing country apart to use tearing our country apart to use his language. This is the first attempt by gove to step attempt by michael gove to step in. Hes a very, very big beast in. Hes a very, very big beast in government. Hes someone who can new can get things done. This new definition is three parts to it. If youre seen to negate or destroy the fundamental rights and freedoms of others, or you undermine , overturn or replace undermine, overturn or replace the system liberal the uks system of liberal democracy or you seek to create a permissive environment for others to do so, then the government will put you on a list, your group on a list, and that mean you cant get that will mean you cant get access Central Government access to Central Government funding. The hope funding. Now, clearly, the hope is that will mean that is that that will mean that universities it, and universities cant fund it, and itll cascade down from the central middle of central from the middle of government oppose that. Government if you oppose that. And some groups are already saying theyre looking forward to taking this into the courts, you can do a judicial review challenge in the courts of the decision by the home secretary, in case, cleverly and in this case, James Cleverly and michael gove, the community secretary, put you that secretary, to put you on that list. So will become a very, list. So it will become a very, very, think, controversial very, i think, controversial place. This once on place. This list once youre on it, youll find your funding streams up quite quickly. Streams drying up quite quickly. There concerns there are already concerns from civil groups. Toby Civil Liberties groups. Toby young, from the free speech union, says future governments, labour or tory might use this list to try and stifle dissent and opposition. And thats the big concern Going Forward from people on the on the liberal wing of our society. They, they there are concerns that this overreach as it could be seen by some of the government trying to crack down on legitimate protests , could be a problem. Protests, could be a problem. And thats where the debate will be in the future. Chris, good to see you. Thanks very much indeed. Thanks very much indeed. Now britains newsroom is coming up at 930 this morning, and Andrew Pierce and bev turner are here to tell us all about it. Very good morning to the two of you. You both look at you two matching. Thats not intentional. Obviously we dont speak when were studio together i dont speak much in the studio, and you are coordinated as well. But you two do plan it, which is nice. Yes. We do, we are talking. Were, you know, were carrying on this this debate about extremism. Were going to be talking to lord walney, who helps the government frame this definition. Were frame this definition. Were going to hold him to account. Why definition . It going why this definition . Is it going too far . Yeah. And harry and yeah. And also harry and william, dianas legacy william, its dianas legacy award tonight. Prince william is going to be on at the going to be on stage at the Science Museum. Prince harry is going be beaming from going to be beaming in from california, not at the same california, but not at the same time. Appalling that. Time. Appalling as that. Sad, isnt it . Its sad, isnt it . Its sad, isnt it . Their mother make what would their mother make of that . E e 5 would be the of that . Would be the only well, she would be the only one to them back together, one to bring them back together, wouldnt she . Think shed be very sad and i think shed be very sad that they cant manage to that they cant even manage to wont coordinate their timings, which very sad. Which is very sad. Got debates on horse ive got debates on horse racing, should be racing, whether it should be banned after a couple of banned or not. After a couple of horses died cheltenham this horses died at cheltenham this week, really sweet little week, and a really sweet little story, pun intended, about story, no pun intended, about a market trader at kevs pick and mix in suffolk. Hes been there for 24 years, and now hes being told he has to move on because the market is getting a rebranding and they dont want pick and mix. Its not healthy for you. You can go to tescos down the road and buy a pick a mix. But been kicked mix. But kev has been kicked off. Been served notice. Off. Hes been served notice. So sad. So sad. A bit of pick and mix. Yeah. A bit of pick and mix. Yeah. Who doesnt. Who doesnt. So theres been a bit of a pubuc so theres been a bit of a public of affection public outlet swell of affection for and theres, a for this man. And theres, a petition to keep kevs pick petition now to keep kevs pick and mix. Oh well, lets hope its safe because will be going on. Because this will be going on. This be only place this wont be the only place its happening. Yeah. Ask you, you can i just ask you, did you say youre talking to lord walney . John woodcock. Walney . Yeah. John woodcock. The former labour mp. Yeah. The former labour mp. Yeah. The former labour mp. Good say. Former so thats good to say. Former so Michael Goves been advised by a labour peer. Hes a crossbencher now. Yeah. Yeah he is a cross. Yes. So and of course gove will make the point when people this the point when people say this is a horrible tory attempt to shut down free speech. This is cross party walney is cross party because walney is lord been a key lord walney has been a key adviser this. Adviser on all of this. Walney, well, if you lord walney, well, if you knew walney where he knew walney island where he where lived when he was mp where he lived when he was mp for barrow and furness, id be surprised. Lord walney, if youre from walney, people tell us a bit about people who live, people who very nice people who live on walney, love walney. Ive got lots of relatives on walney. Right. And people who who dont live on walney dont like it. Never heard of it. Never heard of it. Right, stephen. Right, stephen. You go. There you go. There you go. Well have to. Well well, well have to. Well ask him about walney. Saying not going youre saying im not going to much about why. Only if to say much about why. Only if you one. You live on one. Were very pleased to get him on because he is hes nice on because he is a hes a nice man. Is very nice. Yes. Man. Yeah. He is very nice. Yes. Very good. All right. Lovely thank you. Thanks for you two. Time now for our two. Its time now for our spnng two. Its time now for our spring Great British giveaway and to gadgets. And your chance to win gadgets. A and whopping a shopping spree and a whopping £12,345. Youve got to £12,345 in cash. 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Please check the closing time if watching or listening on demand. Good luck. Well, do you stay with us . Because very shortly were going to be speaking to the secretary of state for levelling up, housing and communities, michael gove. Going talking gove. Were going to be talking about definition of about that new definition of extremism government. Extremism from the government. Thats. Next. Now, a bit of royal news for you. Because william and harry are going to attend an awards ceremony in honour of their late mother tonight. Well, sort of. Mother tonight. Well, sort of. Well, sort of. Yes, because Prince William is going to make an appearance that diana legacy awards this evening in london. However, prince harry going however, prince harry is going to attend virtually, so of course going to course theyre not going to cross paths. Princess of cross paths. Has princess of cross paths. Has been princess of cross paths. Has been crowned ess of cross paths. Has been crowned britains wales has been crowned britains favourite royal. But that survey, done before recent survey, done before the recent photoshop issue, well, took it that way. That way. Yes. Well joining us now is gb news royal correspondent cameron walker. Good to see you cameron. And it is such a shame, isnt it, that the prince has cant be together in the same room to honour their late mother. Yeah, exactly. And i think Princess Diana would perhaps be heartbroken the two cannot Princess Diana would perhaps be hephysically the two cannot Princess Diana would perhaps be hephysically in the two cannot Princess Diana would perhaps be hephysically in thee two cannot Princess Diana would perhaps be hephysically in the same annot Princess Diana would perhaps be hephysically in the same room be physically in the same room together even at together or even virtually at the time well. So this the same time as well. So this is the 25th anniversary of the diana legacy awards. It promotes dianas belief that young people have the power to change the world the better. And if world for the better. And if anything, see from anything, we see from both Prince William and harry that their mothers legacy off their mothers legacy rubs off on the engagements they on them in the engagements they do, when it comes do, particularly when it comes to championing people. So to championing young people. So whats that whats happening tonight is that prince attend the Prince William will attend the awards in person at the Science Museum in london. He will deliver a speech and presents the awards to the 20 young people from around the world, three from the uk but 20 from around the world. After Prince William left prince Harry William has left prince harry will then separately do a video call with those winners virtually. So there is absolutely no crossover here. And what this is doing is highlighting the continued feud between the royal brothers and its overshadowing from the event itself and the legacy of diana. Thats the danger here, diana. Thats the danger here, the fact that they cannot make up after all this time. Yeah, ill tell you what. Its it is still something, though, that they are still both committed to this , even if committed to this, even if theyre doing it now quite separately. Separately. Yeah, exactly. And i think last year, for example, that it was kind of the opposite. Prince harry attended in person and Prince William did something virtually. So i think they are both determined to honour the legacy of mother. And that legacy of their mother. And that is we see here. But in is what we see here. But in terms of physically being in the same that clearly a bit same room, that clearly is a bit of a stretch. Its understood theyre not on speaking terms. Tessy the diana tessy ojo, the ceo of the diana award, its privilege to award, says its a privilege to have their supports. Have both of their supports. A spokesperson for the awards also told the telegraph prince told the telegraph that prince harry the harry is a key part of the celebration evening. Celebration this evening. Cameron walker, really okay, cameron walker, really good to see this morning. Good to see you this morning. Thank very much indeed, thank you very much indeed, lets extremism. Should we . Lets talk extremism. Should we . And governments new plans and the governments new plans to sort of crack down on extremism , and how they can extremism, and how they can access things like meeting with ministers and, and all the rest of it. Lets talk to the secretary of state for levelling up, housing and communities, michael gove, whos behind all of to see you this of this. Good to see you this morning, as always. Can you put this into context for us . Because how are you going to deal groups who technically deal with groups who technically havent any laws . So how havent broken any laws . So how then do you decide whether or not they are behaving in an extremist way . Extremist way . Well, thanks, stephen, youre spot on, obviously theres quite a high threshold for an organisation to break the law, but there are some organisations that we know of that do peddle hate and intolerance who do fan the flames of division. Weve seen an increase in anti semitism and anti Muslim Hatred on our streets and on social media. We need to work with people in to order counter that hatred on the ground. But we need to choose our friends wisely. And thats what todays, slightly definition of slightly tighter definition of extremism will help us to do. Its a more surgical definition, which will allow us to draw a distinction between groups that are genuinely promoting unity and social cohesion, and those groups which are actually extremist, but sometimes exploit access to government to advance their agenda. Theres a really difficult balance to strike here, isnt there, mr gove, between Civil Liberties and keeping people safe . I mean, many people will listen to this definition this morning and worry that were on a slippery slope and theres going to be a crackdown on free speech in this country. Speech in this country. Well, there is absolutely nothing in this definition or any of the actions that were undertaking that curtails free speech. In fact, its vitally important that all of us uphold free speech. Indeed, some of the people who are extremists want to close down free debate in order to advance their agenda, and this definition is only about access to government money and to government platforms. So and to government platforms. So and to government platforms. So an organisation that is after appropriate scrutiny, classified as extremist and one with which we will not deal is still an organisation which is free to argue its case in the in the pubuc argue its case in the in the public square. Its just that we dont believe that taxpayers money should be used to subsidise that. Subsidise that. How then, do you safeguard for the future . Because if these for the future . Because if these are decisions that are going to be made by as we understand it, a home secretary, how do you sort of legislate around this to make sure that someone in the future cant just say, well, we dont, we dont like these particular views, therefore were going to withhold money from them. From them. I think its because our definition is more precise and because we will show our working, because we will say why we think an organisation, falls foul of this definition, that we will be in a position to say, look, this is this is quite a high bar and simply saying things which you or i might find disagreeable , or even saying disagreeable, or even saying them on a consistent basis, isnt enough to constitute extremism. You know, it has to be driven by an ideology. It has to be consistent. It has to be si to king negate the rights of others. It has to be an assault on our parliamentary democracy. So again, there is a specificity there. And also , you know, i there. And also, you know, i think governments have a right to decide whom they will deal with, whom they will subsidise, and to be accountable for that decision to parliament and at the ballot box, and there are, of course , organisations and of course, organisations and individuals, as i say, who you or i might disagree with, but we continue to respect their right to be able to speak out. Gb news is the home of free speech, exemplifies, an approach towards that. You invite on people, to your shows who you may and your viewers may violently disagree with. But you think its important to hear every side of the argument. Crucially, this new definition has no effect on criminal law. So looking at the policing angle of this , because policing angle of this, because the police have come under really heavy scrutiny, havent they . Over the pro palestine marches that weve seen over the past months , criticised for past few months, criticised for two tier policing , they have two tier policing, they have spent a lot of time trying to interpret the law , potentially interpret the law, potentially rather than enforcing it. And now theres now this additional layer of complexity with this new definition. I think if you were to speak to Police Officers on the ground, theyre looking for more powers, not more ideological definitions. Ideological definitions. Well, i absolutely sympathise with the position that the police find themselves in the already existing definition that we have was, it was argued, should be updated and made more precise by mark rowley before he became met commissioner. So you know, we are following in the direction that he set out. But you are right. It is important to keep the law under review. And i know that some very good work is being carried out by the former labour mp John Woodcock , former labour mp John Woodcock, in this area, john, now lord walney has, delivered a report to the home secretary. There are to the home secretary. There are some recommendations in that that the home secretary is considering, which i hope will be able to help the police. Why is it important that you got John Woodcock involved in all of this . I mean, im im quite intrigued to as to what hes intrigued as to as to what hes added to it. Added to it. Well, the great thing about johnis well, the great thing about john is that he is a independent minded , formidably intelligent minded, formidably intelligent and rigorous thinker. Minded, formidably intelligent and rigorous thinker. And john and rigorous thinker. And john also played a very Important Role as a labour politician in calling out , extremism, role as a labour politician in calling out, extremism, during his time in, the house of commons and he was appointed by the Prime Minister to conduct this work and as i say, when the report comes out, well have an opportunity to look at it. But he is a formidably clear thinker. And again, wherever possible, its important on these , important issues to seek these, important issues to seek consensus, which brings as many people together as possible, recognising that you cant get everyone to agree on everything. Yeah, just on the terms of that consensus. I mean, we talked the Labour Party Just talked to the Labour Party Just a few minutes i mean, a few minutes ago. I mean, theyre not really saying a great deal about this in a sense. I guess they want they want to wait and see exactly what the details are from you later on, but would you expect them to stand behind this policy . 7. I 7 i would . I would hope so. And 7 i would hope so. And ive talked to people in the labour party on their front bench , party on their front bench, explained why were doing what were doing. Good conversation. Obviously theyll make their own judgement. And there are further details that i must share with the house commons. First, and the house of commons. First, and you know, ill be making a statement on this a little bit later, but, you know, in our political system, while you can seek consensus, you cant always achieve it. But i hope that, you know, whatever differences we have, the broad know, whatever differences we have, of the broad know, whatever differences we have, of what the broad know, whatever differences we have, of what weree broad know, whatever differences we have, of what were doingd know, whatever differences we have, of what were doing , thrust of what were doing, labour would welcome. Michael gove as always, okay. Michael gove as always, good to see you. Thank you very much indeed. And there are going to be talking to lord walney in the next programme. I dont know what time hes on, but sometime after this morning. So after 930 this morning. So thatll interesting as well. After 930 this morning. So tha yeah. Interesting as well. After 930 this morning. So tha yeah. Withesting as well. After 930 this morning. So tha yeah. With andrew s well. After 930 this morning. So tha yeah. With andrew and ll. After 930 this morning. So tha yeah. With andrew and bev, yeah. With andrew and bev, thats it from us today. Youre back look back tomorrow. Lets take a look at for you now. At the weather for you now. A brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on gb news. News. News. News. Morning. Heres your latest weather for gb news from the met office. More rain to come as we go through today, but at least it is going to be pretty mild before a showery day for tomorrow. Like i said though, plenty of rain around today. A band its way northwards band pushing its way northwards into scotland across into parts of scotland across northern ireland, and some of that rain could turn heavy. Even a little bit of wintry ness, some sleet or snow over the highest ground across more eastern england. Eastern parts of england. Its actually largely actually going to be largely fine. Some decent sunshine fine. Some decent sunshine through the day, but through much of the day, but cloud outbreaks of showery cloud and outbreaks of showery rain from rain feeding up from the southwest some brisk , southwest on some brisk, blustery winds. Like i said though, mild side though, on the mild side temperatures are well above average for the time of year for most of us, though, a little bit chillier towards the north. More rain as go through rain to come as we go through the end of the day, particularly across scotland. But it across parts of scotland. But it does push away we go does start to push away as we go into there will be into tomorrow. There will be some skies around tonight, some clear skies around tonight, but outbreaks of but also further outbreaks of showery some of these showery rain and some of these could really pack punch. There could really pack a punch. There could really pack a punch. There could occasional could be the occasional downpour