that actually it suppressed the market — that actually it suppressed the market. one of the reasons why heat pumps _ market. one of the reasons why heat pumps are _ market. one of the reasons why heat pumps are so expensive is because at that point— pumps are so expensive is because at that point the market got the signal from government that they didn't need _ from government that they didn't need to— from government that they didn't need to keep developing the technologies or innovate and we don't _ technologies or innovate and we don't need to do this. meanwhile 1.5 million _ don't need to do this. meanwhile 1.5 million homes in this country are not built— million homes in this country are not built to — million homes in this country are not built to net zero and think how nruch _ not built to net zero and think how much money those people would have saved _ much money those people would have saved if _ much money those people would have saved if we _ much money those people would have saved if we would have kept with that policy. but saved if we would have kept with that policy-— that policy. but do you think that we are seeing — that policy. but do you think that we are seeing politicians' - that policy. but do you think that i we are seeing politicians' attitudes to all of this changing. chris stark says the collective fear and it has changed but do you feel that? i says the collective fear and it has changed but do you feel that? i have to say when — changed but do you feel that? i have to say when rishi _ changed but do you feel that? i have to say when rishi sunak _ changed but do you feel that? i have to say when rishi sunak stood - changed but do you feel that? i have to say when rishi sunak stood up - changed but do you feel that? i have to say when rishi sunak stood up and .ave to say when rishi sunak stood up and gave that _ to say when rishi sunak stood up and gave that speech i wondered the same thin- gave that speech i wondered the same thing chris— gave that speech i wondered the same thing chris stark said. is he trying to introduce another wedge issue in the 20 _ to introduce another wedge issue in the 20 days of conservative government without any ideas and therefore — government without any ideas and therefore just looking for things —— dwindling — therefore just looking for things —— dwindling days. i think it's really regrettable. i hope he comes back to what he _ regrettable. i hope he comes back to what he always says which he is doing _ what he always says which he is doing this — what he always says which he is doing this for his children stop that is— doing this for his children stop that is why we need to be thinking about— that is why we need to be thinking about it _ that is why we need to be thinking about it but actually i think there are good — about it but actually i think there are good market reasons for doing

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